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Re: AR designs - post your best here!! Tue, 13 September 2005 12:23 Go to previous message
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Dogthinkers wrote on Tue, 13 September 2005 03:32

I hope you aren't under the impression I am flaming you or something, I just enjoy working through this stuff. Sherlock
Nope... with "emotional" i was under impression ... in the sense that its like rule of life there for you. Very Happy With IFE one can move and without IFE he cant or has to pay tons extra. No checks needed to be made with the reality and with actual costs involved in actual circumstances or testbeds.
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At 2415 you may only have 11% less, but at 2450 you will *still* have 11% less as those lost population has not been growing either, unless you usually manage to max out your population before then.
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IMHO this figure is closer to 100%.

Like i said for AR extra 11% pop on one planet gives extra 5% resources on that planet so that whats IFE-s ultimately worth on the cases when it helps getting somehere 1 years quicker. In packed or dense IFE-less *is no way* 1 year slower to each planet. Easy to prove.
Also that "emotional" was about your talks about that huge pop-lifting prices that affect your iron supply, ability to colonize and ability to research. +100% Surprised Rolling Eyes
FM-MF costs 53 res, FM-priv costs 73 res, FM-LF costs 130 resources.
QJ5-MF costs 45 res, QJ5-LF costs 114 resources, QJ5-SFX costs 73 resources.
So draw your budgets please. Deal
For me IFE AR builds ~12 pop-moving vessels 10 MFs and 2 privs. Say 676 resources. Enough for averagely 3 years there and 3 years back trips. Maybe 2-4 more are needed within 25 first years but then the prices start to miniaturize, minerals matter less and keeping in mind soon to come ultras LF-s are better option.
My experiense is that IFE-less uses about 770 res for smooth enough early pop lifting (number of planets where additional year of travel is needed is not 0 but minimal enough) so 14% more or ~100 res. When more LF-s are needed later then these can be built with rad rams already (one anyway wants gate tech if he got decent sized empire). Where you think he puts additional 100% or 676 res
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