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Mon, 12 September 2005 20:32

Dogthinkers

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You are too emotional there

I hope you aren't under the impression I am flaming you or something, I just enjoy working through this stuff. Sherlock

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Dry facts? Longer routes ultimately mean 3% pop more lost on transit. 1 year lost growth in colonies say 8% (for average 50% colony) and so you get 11% less pop in colonies. Colony pop 11% less means SQRT(1.11)-SQRT(1)=5% less econ in colonies. Since HW is major contributor of resources early and is unaffected by IFE it sums up as 3-4% less overall econ at year 15.

Population growth is a key limiter in all economy strategies in Stars, so I don't think a 11% population hit is something to ignore. At 2415 you may only have 11% less, but at 2450 you will *still* have 11% less as those lost population has not been growing either, unless you usually manage to max out your population before then.

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How lot lower? We are talking of resources here. I see 14% more shipping cost and shipping costs is only 36% of overall shipbuilding (major there is colonization cost) so that 14% turns into only 5% of overall shipbuilding. That shipbuilding budget is about 2K during first 15 years so what we talk about here is 100 resources!!! Especially quirky since you mentioned P research? It is IFE player who usually takes P 2 (263 resources Laughing) before he even starts to take C 4. IFE-less is happy with P 0 up to C 8 (that makes C 8 80 resources cheaper).

How did you decide on these percentages? I think the cost is significantly more than 14% increased shipping cost - IMHO this figure is closer to 100%. I mentioned P research only because RHRS had been suggested as an alternative to FM.

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Lazy? Certainly IFE = lazy! Crazy? Surprised Laughing I have played and won multiple games with various sorts of AR. Their technology goals and breakpoints differ somewhat. Con 8 is no absolute must to have early if you got IFE. So ... taking something else for the resources spent may make more sense. Like W, more N and/or B instead of C from 4 to 8. Gakl already said s

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