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Mon, 12 September 2005 11:16

Kotk

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Dogthinkers wrote on Mon, 12 September 2005 06:24

And if for some reason you still only want to shift 400kt at a time, then the FM LF can go huge distances at warp 9, minimising your deaths from transit.

You are too emotional there. Dry facts? Longer routes ultimately mean 3% pop more lost on transit. 1 year lost growth in colonies say 8% (for average 50% colony) and so you get 11% less pop in colonies. Colony pop 11% less means SQRT(1.11)-SQRT(1)=5% less econ in colonies. Since HW is major contributor of resources early and is unaffected by IFE it sums up as 3-4% less overall econ at year 15.

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My point was that the IFE race will get to higher levels of con QUICKER because it's early shipping costs were lower (and it doesn't risk getting distracted with prop research either.)

How lot lower? We are talking of resources here. I see 14% more shipping cost and shipping costs is only 36% of overall shipbuilding (major there is colonization cost) so that 14% turns into only 5% of overall shipbuilding. That shipbuilding budget is about 2K during first 15 years so what we talk about here is 100 resources!!! Especially quirky since you mentioned P research? It is IFE player who usually takes P 2 (263 resources Laughing

) before he even starts to take C 4. IFE-less is happy with P 0 up to C 8 (that makes C 8 80 resources cheaper).

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But now you say that the IFE player is lazy and somehow researches slower? Such a crazy player will certainly not do well... Rolling Eyes

Lazy? Certainly IFE = lazy! Crazy? Surprised

I have played and won multiple games with various sorts of AR. Their technology goals and breakpoints differ somewhat. Con 8 is no absolute must to have early if you got IFE. So ... taking something else for the resources spent may make more sense. Like W, more N and/or B instead of C from 4 to 8. Gakl already said somewhere in this thread that MF is sufficient for most IFE ARs shipping tasks for a while and i fully agree with him. Why to boost that C research if you got IFE? Or am i crazy? Laughing

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