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Re: AR designs - post your best here!! Fri, 09 September 2005 02:24 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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SinicalIdealist wrote on Fri, 09 September 2005 04:20

Kotk wrote on Thu, 08 September 2005 17:10

Yep AR has to get to planets first. What prevents it? In my testbeds it is usually lack of early ironium. IFE does not help against it. Confused


How about the cost of the FM? Consider that the greater warp 9 range means you have your ships cycling back from the frontier much earlier. Therefore you reuse your ships far faster...

True in both cases, but:
- FM moves your ships faster --> less ships needed;
- LF with QJ-5 and 800kT freight of pop (2 years of growth) also goes 81 LY far. Having Docks everywhere for refuell that LF, it can go with W-9 far for much less cost of iron than three PVTs or four MFs;
- normal prop gives you 100/250 gates much earlier --> ships return faster.

Both approaches are playable, but IFE gives you speed earlier and for less investment in research, while NO-IFE saves you RW points, starts slower, but has more benefits later.

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Yep AR has to get to planets first.

Now consider diplomatic results of a FM-based rapid expansion. Taking "best" planets earlier than your neighbours will not help you on popularity, and they already know you're an AR with early iron crunch pending. They can easily declare such an aggressive expansion cassus belli and attack you in the phase your AR is the most vulnerable. Having that in mind I see kotk's no-IFE AR design as a very good race. Unusuall and wide hab for intersettling, less early speed that allows neighbours to take their best planets, but lots of capacity later.
BR, Iztok

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