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Re: Cheating or not? Sat, 11 June 2005 23:56 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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It is the issue of minerals "vanishing" that I consider a bug. It seems to me that minerals aren't supposed to vanish, except by natural decay or by spending them of ships or other things.

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The game especially warn that "you got n ships of this desing and these will be destroyed if you delete the design". So the game was made to do it this way.


Yes, but the game doesn't say anything about the minerals those ships could be carrying. IMHO minerals shouldn't disappear at all, except by mass packet decay, salvage decay, or spending.

Now, the motive is certainly the same (having minerals disappear rather than letting an enemy control them) and the method is certainly (IMHO) questionable in both cases (albeit more so in the case of uploading minerals to the fleet of bombers).

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Getting minerals off enemy planet is not too easy (or cheap) operation and you are limited by cargo there. You got to invest into it some resources, time and planning. Also it costs you whole design slot so you got to plan it very carefully. SS is prt that excels in using its design slots up fast.


Whether it is easy to exploit doesn't not change whether it is a bug, feature, cheat, or whatever. The freepop hack might be difficult to exploit (have to find the memory storing the # of colonists transfered), but that doesn't make it any less of a cheat.

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I don't think it is quite the same. Whereas there is no legitimate reason for mineral upload (except for denying minerals to enemy), you may wish to delete a design to make way for a new ship.


There is still a way to do it without destroying the minerals - simply jettison them first.

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