| Re: Politics |
Fri, 12 November 2004 05:50   |
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 mazda |
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Registered: April 2003
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| multilis wrote on Thu, 11 November 2004 16:45 |
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The problem with surveys is that people confuse them with statistics
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Most statistics are based on surveys/partial data
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Not at all. I can quote some statistics on the likelihood of winning the lottery.
That has nothing to do with surveys or partial data, but simple mathematics.
If you then did a survey of people who buy lottery tickets and asked them how often they had won then you would get a (considerably) different answer.
QED.
I stand by my original statement.
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For example the claimed IQ by state was likely not a measure of all people in each state. And measuring IQ is done by asking a limited number of questions, a small biased survey of a person's knowledge/problem solving/wisdom.
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I'm very surprised at the quoted variations in IQ by state.
When they do such things in the UK you don't even get that much variation from town to town, which is a much smaller sample size.
That suggests the quoted State figures were based on small sample sizes.
p.s. Ideally, an IQ test would not rely on a persons knowledge.
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IQ measurements favour those who are used to being asked those sort of questions in that sort of manner, those who spend more time in school. A person who has practice understanding and solving tests with written pattern questions will do better on that part of IQ test.
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Agree. Although I reckon that the learning curve is a lot different depending on your intelligence (which is probably a reasonable definition of what intelligence is in the first place).
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A different sort of IQ test might be throwing people in a wilderness and see which figure out how to survive, do basic tasks such as make fire and tools from scratch. Suddenly the rural areas may seem to have a higher IQ than the urban.
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You seem to be implying that the rural areas would already have some basic understanding (a head start) of how to make fire / tools / grow food.
That is not related to IQ, but I can see the point.
People in cities "might" be m
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