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Re: Clan [EA] vs ?

Mon, 14 June 2004 09:43

overworked

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Ettane wrote on Sun, 13 June 2004 23:34

I've never heard of that possibility - how does it work?

: D

You can generate a Stars! game from the command line, and when you do so you use a .def file to specify the game parameters. [This is spelled out in the Help file.]

One of the items you can specify is a seed number for generating the galaxy. Therefore, you can make some modifications and generate the *same* galaxy again since it uses the same seed.

This is a common tool for putting teams together in the same region of space - you generate the galaxy, locate all the HWs, and then shift races to different player numbers in order to shift the members of a team into the same area. Two-planet races like IT and PP mess the set-up a tiny bit, but not much.
I've used .def files as the third party set-up person for a few team games.

Combined with the north/south movement capabilities of UC it should be fairly easy for both teams to get a desirable HW distribution for their territory - and also have some control on which races are in what given area.

I guess this is a discussion to include donjon in on to see how much work he's willing to put in, and how complicated a specification he's willing to accept from either team. I did a test generation of a huge sparse just for the heck of it and got an even # race/odd # race distribution that in my opinion would have been unfair to one side; i.e. the odd races were generally crammed to the extreme west or extreme east of the map. Even with UC allowing north/south HW shifting the one team was going to have a huge gap in their territory.

-Kurt

P.S. - UC is an interesting tool. Haven't worked with it much.

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		Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Sun, 08 February 2004 01:21
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Sotek on Sun, 08 February 2004 13:35
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Sun, 08 February 2004 16:55
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: mazda on Mon, 09 February 2004 17:57
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Wed, 11 February 2004 12:13
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Raindancer on Sun, 08 February 2004 17:27
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ron on Sun, 08 February 2004 20:39
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Orca on Sun, 08 February 2004 22:47
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Mon, 09 February 2004 01:44
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Orca on Mon, 09 February 2004 02:14
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: overworked on Mon, 09 February 2004 07:41
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: schpat on Mon, 09 February 2004 02:34
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: mlaub on Mon, 09 February 2004 13:55
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Wed, 11 February 2004 16:18
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ron on Wed, 11 February 2004 17:12
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Thu, 12 February 2004 11:43
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: donjon on Thu, 12 February 2004 12:29
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Wed, 11 February 2004 17:41
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ron on Wed, 11 February 2004 19:45
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Wed, 11 February 2004 19:59
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ashlyn on Thu, 12 February 2004 02:30
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Thu, 12 February 2004 11:56
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Thu, 12 February 2004 12:57
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ron on Thu, 12 February 2004 17:07
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Thu, 12 February 2004 17:18
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: donjon on Tue, 17 February 2004 13:14
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Tue, 17 February 2004 13:37
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: overworked on Tue, 17 February 2004 13:40
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Tue, 17 February 2004 13:53
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: overworked on Tue, 17 February 2004 14:29
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: donjon on Tue, 17 February 2004 14:58
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: joseph on Tue, 17 February 2004 15:39
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ptolemy on Mon, 23 February 2004 05:47
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Mon, 23 February 2004 12:19
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ptolemy on Mon, 23 February 2004 12:33
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: donjon on Mon, 23 February 2004 12:38
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Mon, 23 February 2004 12:47
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ptolemy on Mon, 23 February 2004 12:52
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Mon, 23 February 2004 13:06
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Mon, 23 February 2004 16:52
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Mon, 23 February 2004 16:55
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ptolemy on Mon, 23 February 2004 17:49
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: donjon on Sun, 29 February 2004 07:07
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Sun, 29 February 2004 10:55
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: overworked on Sun, 29 February 2004 13:51
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Sun, 29 February 2004 18:06
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Mon, 08 March 2004 09:45
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ptolemy on Mon, 08 March 2004 12:27
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Hyena on Mon, 08 March 2004 13:02
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ptolemy on Mon, 08 March 2004 13:25
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Mon, 08 March 2004 17:07
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: overworked on Mon, 08 March 2004 23:45
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Tue, 09 March 2004 11:24
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Wed, 10 March 2004 10:28
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Wed, 10 March 2004 10:46
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Fri, 12 March 2004 17:38
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Hyena on Fri, 12 March 2004 23:19
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Fri, 12 March 2004 23:28
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Wed, 28 April 2004 12:56
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: multilis on Wed, 28 April 2004 13:16
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Wed, 28 April 2004 13:50
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Sat, 12 June 2004 00:48
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Sat, 12 June 2004 02:40
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: donjon on Sat, 12 June 2004 03:43
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ashlyn on Sat, 12 June 2004 03:58
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: iztok on Sat, 12 June 2004 04:54
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ashlyn on Sat, 12 June 2004 05:56
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Orca on Sat, 12 June 2004 04:12
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Sat, 12 June 2004 11:09
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Sun, 13 June 2004 20:23
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Sun, 13 June 2004 23:34
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: overworked on Mon, 14 June 2004 09:43
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Mon, 14 June 2004 11:23
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: overworked on Mon, 14 June 2004 12:19
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: donjon on Tue, 15 June 2004 12:12
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Sat, 12 June 2004 15:47
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: donjon on Sun, 13 June 2004 05:54
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: multilis on Sun, 13 June 2004 18:56
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Tue, 15 June 2004 12:22
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Tue, 15 June 2004 13:04
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Tue, 15 June 2004 13:28
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Tue, 15 June 2004 15:09
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Tue, 15 June 2004 16:11
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Orca on Tue, 15 June 2004 15:00
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Tue, 15 June 2004 16:14
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Orca on Tue, 15 June 2004 16:54
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: donjon on Tue, 06 July 2004 05:30
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Tue, 06 July 2004 09:43
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: donjon on Sat, 10 July 2004 11:08
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Sat, 10 July 2004 11:13
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: LEit on Thu, 22 July 2004 11:20
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Ettane on Thu, 22 July 2004 13:04
		Re: Clan [EA] vs ? By: Micha on Mon, 26 July 2004 18:44

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