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Fri, 16 April 2004 00:02

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multilis wrote on Thu, 15 April 2004 21:48

So for example, a 3.5 techs cheap QS IS -f may sound like a gamble.

Point of order.

QS and NF are as radically different as HG and HP. More so, really. A QS is basically a front-loaded HR (Hyper-resource - a term usually used for 1/1000 pop eff combined with HP factories) - it sacrifices end-run resources for speed speed speed (very nearly as fast as your typical 1WW). A NF race goes completely in the other direction - relying *completely* on pop eff for resources. It's about as fast as an HG in terms of combat effectiveness, maybe slightly slower (though with better tech to make up for a resource deficiency - and faster to get a planet online, though planets are typically 1/3 the size of your average HG's).

A QS can butcher an NF in close quarters. Only once you get out to around medium (when NF requires prohibitive MM and a QS starts to have problems killing fast enough to gather enough territory) does the NF start to look better. Once you get into large and huge, the shear number of planets (and hence fleets) required present major problems.

An HG can handle an NF if they're both on even footing (depending as always on the specific race designs, random factors in territory, players, yadda yadda).

NF really aren't all that fast. Certainly the only PRTs I'd take NF into a regular game would be CA and IT. I've seen a NF IS taken into a tiny game and it was simply torn to shreds after giving his neighbors a brief fright - and this was before the rise of quickstarts (in a tiny or a small, NF is probably contraindicated...)

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