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Re: When to build up defense?

Sun, 04 April 2004 21:41

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To expand on LEit's comments, and my own earlier ones, with beta torps/bazookas, you can basically expect to see design/counterdesign at best during that era unless it's a small universe with slow tech/forced BET/similar other game conditions. Even in a small I expect to see cruisers deployed by the 20's to 30's, battleships 30's to 40's depending on the speed of the individual race. With equivelent or higher weapons tech and supporting tech somewhat lower (typically energy 7-10, prop 7-9, elec 4-10, bio 4-7). And yes, that's fighting the whole time. Smile

There just isn't enough *time* under those circumstances to bother with more than one or two rounds of counterdesigning. Why bother constructing a Fleet O' Death with lower tech when you can wait a year and build a Fleet O' More Death with more effective components? Especially if it's more resistant to simple counterdesigns.

Once cruisers are out, destroyers and frigates are largely relegated to the role of chaff and minesweepers. There are a few exceptions (say, somebody deployed bazooka cruisers) - but there's a reason why bazooka cruisers should be considered a stopgap at best, given how little time it takes to get from w8 to w10. And of course once the colloidal battleships are out in force, the lesser hulls tend to have problems due to the many advantages battleships (and 300/500 gates) confer. A W14 cruiser horde can win, but you need to start building sooner.

edit: got rid of double negative for clarification.

[Updated on: Sun, 04 April 2004 22:00]

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		Hull musings 2 By: multilis on Thu, 01 April 2004 11:01
		Re: When to build up defense? By: Ptolemy on Thu, 01 April 2004 11:18
		Re: When to build up defense? By: alric on Thu, 01 April 2004 12:24
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Thu, 01 April 2004 13:31
		Re: When to build up defense? By: alric on Thu, 01 April 2004 17:47
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Thu, 01 April 2004 18:22
		Re: When to build up defense? By: LEit on Thu, 01 April 2004 20:39
		Re: When to build up defense? By: Ptolemy on Thu, 01 April 2004 21:31
		Re: When to build up defense? By: Ptolemy on Thu, 01 April 2004 21:45
		Re: When to build up defense? By: xdude on Thu, 01 April 2004 21:53
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Fri, 02 April 2004 01:34
		Re: When to build up defense? By: iztok on Fri, 02 April 2004 04:16
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Fri, 02 April 2004 09:17
		Re: When to build up defense? By: Orca on Fri, 02 April 2004 10:42
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Fri, 02 April 2004 11:27
		Re: When to build up defense? By: LEit on Fri, 02 April 2004 12:14
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Fri, 02 April 2004 12:48
		Re: When to build up defense? By: Orca on Sat, 03 April 2004 11:07
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Sat, 03 April 2004 11:28
		Re: When to build up defense? By: Kotk on Sun, 04 April 2004 11:59
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Sun, 04 April 2004 12:56
		Re: When to build up defense? By: Kotk on Sun, 04 April 2004 14:52
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Sun, 04 April 2004 15:31
		Re: When to build up defense? By: Kotk on Sun, 04 April 2004 17:34
		Re: When to build up defense? By: Kotk on Sun, 04 April 2004 18:01
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Sun, 04 April 2004 19:00
		Re: When to build up defense? By: Dogthinkers on Sun, 04 April 2004 20:26
		Re: When to build up defense? By: LEit on Sun, 04 April 2004 20:54
		Re: When to build up defense? By: Orca on Sun, 04 April 2004 21:41
		Re: When to build up defense? By: Dogthinkers on Mon, 05 April 2004 00:36
		Re: When to build up defense? By: Dogthinkers on Mon, 05 April 2004 00:42
		Re: When to build up defense? By: Kotk on Mon, 05 April 2004 08:26
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Mon, 05 April 2004 09:30
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Thu, 08 April 2004 12:38
		Re: When to build up defense? By: iztok on Thu, 08 April 2004 14:27
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Thu, 08 April 2004 14:47
		Re: When to build up defense? By: iztok on Thu, 08 April 2004 17:58
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Thu, 08 April 2004 18:59
		Re: When to build up defense? By: iztok on Fri, 09 April 2004 03:27
		Re: When to build up defense? By: iztok on Fri, 09 April 2004 04:33
		Re: When to build up defense? By: Kotk on Fri, 09 April 2004 07:31
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Fri, 09 April 2004 12:31
		Re: When to build up defense? By: Kotk on Sun, 11 April 2004 12:43
		Re: When to build up defense? By: overworked on Sun, 04 April 2004 15:40
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Sun, 04 April 2004 16:29
		Re: When to build up defense? By: iztok on Fri, 02 April 2004 13:38
		Re: When to build up defense? By: multilis on Fri, 02 April 2004 17:16
		Re: Hull musings By: joseph on Fri, 02 April 2004 14:13
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