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Re: Proof of the pudding

Tue, 30 March 2004 04:30

donjon

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Staz wrote on Mon, 29 March 2004 08:21

Ranked games will be restricted to ranked players. To begin with, when most players dont have ratings, the players will automatically be assigned the rank that the game specifies. In this situation it is up to the hosts not to accept players who obviously don't fit.

Not neccesarily, a host calls for an intermediate game of twelve players:
He gets 3 new players,
2 beginners,
5 low intermediate,
4 intermediate,
2 high intermediate,
1 advanced player.

He may choose to accept all but the identified beginners...
he assigns ranks of intermediate to the 3 new players,
now the game has a real ranking weight of (5*2+7*3+2*4+1*6)/15=3
(which is intermediate Wink

Note: the host is better off to query the new players to ascertain their playing level, because it would be quite discouraging to a player to start as an intermediate, and then at end of game bounce back to low intermediate, and then in the next game bounce back to beginner. (This is for beginners, who have had no experience with net-play)

With players who are at or close to an intermediate level rating them as intermediate will not hurt so much; they might bounce back to low intermediate and stay there for a while, or they may even advance Wink

The safe levels for entry are either beginner or intermediate... even for a player who normally would be considered advanced, or expert... if it is true that they are an expert they will advance to that level quite quickly.

I would suggest that a host be slightly judicious in his choice of players... the example above has a range from 2-6 which is a very wide range, the game would most likely be dominated by the advanced player, making it a very hard game for the less advanced players. A range of 3 is more appropriate, an intermediate game with some low intermediate and some high intermediate.

Using the players listed above, and queries which ascertained that two players were beginner, and one could be classified as intermediate. You then get:
5 low intermediate,
5 intermediate,
2 high intermediate.
which would give a game weight of (5*2+5*3+2*4)/12 which is a low intermediate game. (but more balanced)

When a host says "no" to a player, it is slightly disheartening, however, you could scan new games and suggest another game which would be more appropriate (But Ashlyn has a new beginner game starting...)
It may seem weird denying entry to the advanced player, but hopefully the advanced player is "advanced" enough to understand and wait for an appropriate game to start.

[Updated on: Tue, 30 March 2004 04:44]

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		Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Orca on Fri, 19 March 2004 22:12
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		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Ptolemy on Mon, 29 March 2004 00:10
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