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Fri, 19 March 2004 23:48

Orca

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Crusader wrote on Fri, 19 March 2004 23:31

Very first game just has to be at a beginner's level for 99% of the players, simply because 99% of the first-time players feel that they are ready for an advanced-level game. It's true!

TOO TRUE! I'm an exception - I went to #Stars! blitz before I went to PBEM, so I *knew* I was a beginner. Yeah, sure, I won a few blitzes against other newbies - the experienced players totally creamed me! Smile

Crusader wrote on Fri, 19 March 2004 23:31

Everyone admit it now. I did. I just knew it down in my bones that I could take on an intermediate-level game at the very least. Truth be told, I did pretty decent in my 1st game. Made it to 25K by 2450 without any problems, and did it with an HG SS. (Aw heck, who needs a CA to make a monster!) But ...

That's actually very good - sounds like you might have been able to make low intermediate instead. But it's much safer to start with beginner. Intermediate is a VERY wide classification. You've got the beginners moving up. The players that should be in advanced games, but just don't know it yet (or don't have the confidence for it yet). And all the other intermediates of course.

Actually, what I've found is a lot more beginners seem to think they're ready for advanced or expert level games...I think they must think that's the level of the AI that they can play against without losing. Smile

Crusader wrote on Fri, 19 March 2004 23:31

Everyone should do themselves a favor and join a beginner game the very first time. IMHO. Embarassed

Yep - and to make life less painful, make sure it's a medium universe *at most*. You make TONS of mistakes even before the game starts - do you really want to be playing that 1/2 hab ARM CA for the next 150 (or more!) turns a large or huge will take?

Your first few games you'll learn a LOT. Not the least of which is what not to do.

Crusader wrote on Fri, 19 March 2004 23:31

After that first game, however, I say go ahead and go wild. Take an honest appraisal of yourself and jump in where you think you belong. No one gets better by staying safely on the bottom rung. Ya gotta stretch!

I'm not so sure here. If you win in a beginner game, then sure, move on up to intermediate. If you did fairly well, or think you could beat most of the people you played if you were to play again, maybe move on up to intermediate. But I wouldn't suggest moving straight to advanced - you'll almost certainly get your clock cleaned. As it was, it took a solid 6 months before I could beat Gakl in Blitz, and at that time I was probably only at around a high intermediate overall, possibly advanced with respect to race design.

My fundamental rule to rankings is that if you're consistantly winning at a particular rank, move up. If you're winning some, losing some, you're probably at the right level. If you're consistantly losing, it's probably time to move down. And if you get COMPLETELY stomped and you don't know why or how, take a cold hard look at yourself and make sure you're not in the wrong category. And if you get invited into a higher level game, maybe it's time you moved on up... Smile

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		Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Orca on Fri, 19 March 2004 22:12
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Fri, 19 March 2004 23:31
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Orca on Fri, 19 March 2004 23:48
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: icebird on Sat, 20 March 2004 01:10
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Kang on Sat, 20 March 2004 01:28
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: ForceUser on Sat, 20 March 2004 03:36
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Orca on Sat, 20 March 2004 22:44
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: ForceUser on Sun, 21 March 2004 05:26
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sun, 21 March 2004 17:46
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Kang on Mon, 22 March 2004 13:06
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Mon, 22 March 2004 13:38
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Tue, 23 March 2004 11:30
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Tue, 23 March 2004 12:21
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Tue, 23 March 2004 14:32
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Raindancer on Tue, 23 March 2004 15:47
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Tue, 23 March 2004 16:09
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Tue, 23 March 2004 12:29
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Ptolemy on Mon, 29 March 2004 00:10
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: iztok on Mon, 29 March 2004 01:16
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Ptolemy on Mon, 29 March 2004 01:21
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: mazda on Mon, 29 March 2004 02:10
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Hyena on Mon, 22 March 2004 14:01
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: ForceUser on Tue, 23 March 2004 13:40
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Tue, 23 March 2004 18:53
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: LEit on Tue, 23 March 2004 20:20
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Wed, 24 March 2004 05:40
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: LEit on Wed, 24 March 2004 09:24
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Wed, 24 March 2004 09:42
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Orca on Wed, 24 March 2004 10:15
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Wed, 24 March 2004 12:08
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Kang on Wed, 24 March 2004 13:30
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Wed, 24 March 2004 14:44
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Thu, 25 March 2004 09:12
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Thu, 25 March 2004 10:38
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Raindancer on Thu, 25 March 2004 08:53
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Wed, 24 March 2004 10:53
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Orca on Wed, 24 March 2004 10:12
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Tue, 23 March 2004 20:15
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: ForceUser on Wed, 24 March 2004 12:20
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: EDog on Wed, 24 March 2004 19:00
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Wed, 24 March 2004 18:53
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Thu, 25 March 2004 09:18
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Thu, 25 March 2004 09:43
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Thu, 25 March 2004 10:30
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: mazda on Thu, 25 March 2004 11:14
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Thu, 25 March 2004 11:24
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: LEit on Thu, 25 March 2004 12:39
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Thu, 25 March 2004 13:58
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Kotk on Thu, 25 March 2004 14:43
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Thu, 25 March 2004 15:14
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Thu, 25 March 2004 15:32
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: LEit on Thu, 25 March 2004 15:53
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Thu, 25 March 2004 16:06
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Thu, 25 March 2004 16:12
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: LEit on Thu, 25 March 2004 16:33
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Thu, 25 March 2004 17:07
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: LEit on Thu, 25 March 2004 17:26
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Thu, 25 March 2004 17:43
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: mlaub on Thu, 25 March 2004 19:59
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Kang on Thu, 25 March 2004 23:48
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Fri, 26 March 2004 05:37
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		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Crusader on Fri, 26 March 2004 09:16
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Staz on Fri, 26 March 2004 10:29
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Ron on Mon, 29 March 2004 00:24
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		Re: Proof of the pudding By: multilis on Tue, 30 March 2004 00:10
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Ptolemy on Tue, 30 March 2004 03:32
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		Re: Proof of the pudding By: donjon on Tue, 30 March 2004 04:30
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		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Hyena on Fri, 26 March 2004 01:40
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Fri, 26 March 2004 05:22
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: LEit on Thu, 25 March 2004 15:40
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Thu, 25 March 2004 15:54
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Thu, 25 March 2004 12:24
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Thu, 25 March 2004 12:48
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Thu, 25 March 2004 15:58
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Fri, 26 March 2004 05:27
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: iztok on Fri, 26 March 2004 08:54
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Fri, 26 March 2004 10:21
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Fri, 26 March 2004 10:33
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Fri, 26 March 2004 08:34
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Fri, 26 March 2004 08:51
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: mlaub on Fri, 26 March 2004 14:00
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Sat, 27 March 2004 06:45
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sat, 27 March 2004 07:41
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: overworked on Sat, 27 March 2004 11:45
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Kang on Sat, 27 March 2004 12:03
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Sat, 27 March 2004 13:42
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Sat, 27 March 2004 14:06
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: LEit on Sat, 27 March 2004 14:37
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Sat, 27 March 2004 17:10
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Kang on Sat, 27 March 2004 18:39
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Sat, 27 March 2004 19:34
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Kang on Sun, 28 March 2004 00:09
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Ptolemy on Sun, 28 March 2004 05:29
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sun, 28 March 2004 06:54
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: mazda on Sun, 28 March 2004 07:51
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sun, 28 March 2004 08:06
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: iztok on Sun, 28 March 2004 11:17
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Sun, 28 March 2004 06:56
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Ptolemy on Sun, 28 March 2004 07:17
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sun, 28 March 2004 07:42
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Ptolemy on Sun, 28 March 2004 07:56
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: mlaub on Sun, 28 March 2004 13:53
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Sun, 28 March 2004 16:56
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Sun, 28 March 2004 17:29
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sat, 27 March 2004 17:45
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: EDog on Sat, 27 March 2004 18:12
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sat, 27 March 2004 18:18
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: EDog on Sat, 27 March 2004 18:18
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sat, 27 March 2004 18:19
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sat, 27 March 2004 18:04
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Sat, 27 March 2004 18:32
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Alien on Sun, 28 March 2004 11:46
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sun, 28 March 2004 12:00
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Alien on Sun, 28 March 2004 12:51
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Ptolemy on Sun, 28 March 2004 13:08
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Hyena on Sun, 28 March 2004 21:58
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Tue, 30 March 2004 10:04
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Tue, 30 March 2004 11:40
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Tue, 30 March 2004 13:00

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