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Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship)

Fri, 19 March 2004 23:31

Crusader

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Orca wrote on Fri, 19 March 2004 21:12

Skill classification is difficult for a variety of reasons:

I agree with everything, and I do mean everthing, that you said in your post, as well as the entertaining post from the NG; but the quote above is what I agree with the most. Cool

I just have to say it, because it has been said before as many times as classifications have been posted. Skill is something that cannot be classified. Nope. Just can't do it. Oh we post guidelines all the time, and they are useful for some (the ones that pay attention).

Very first game just has to be at a beginner's level for 99% of the players, simply because 99% of the first-time players feel that they are ready for an advanced-level game. It's true! Everyone admit it now. I did. I just knew it down in my bones that I could take on an intermediate-level game at the very least. Truth be told, I did pretty decent in my 1st game. Made it to 25K by 2450 without any problems, and did it with an HG SS. (Aw heck, who needs a CA to make a monster!) But ...

There was only 5 players in a medium uni. Hmmm.
No fighting took place until after 2450. Hmmmm.
I lost two battle fleets in actions I was not ready for because I did not move them out of the way of the invading enemy and did not set the battle orders to avoid battle. Hmmmm.

Now there may be 1 to 2 percent of beginning players who are good enough to catch those mistakes BEFORE they make them that first time. But they are a rare breed.

Everyone should do themselves a favor and join a beginner game the very first time. IMHO. Embarassed

After that first game, however, I say go ahead and go wild. Take an honest appraisal of yourself and jump in where you think you belong. No one gets better by staying safely on the bottom rung. Ya gotta stretch! Not Worthy

And, if that stretch hurts, pull it back a bit so it don't sting so badly the next time out. Works for me. People who can honestly appraise their skill level, and I believe that to be most folks, can make it work for them too. Yeah, there are a very few who can't seem to manage honest self-reflection. And, yeah, there are a very few who seem to get really upset when who they believe to be a beginner joins up with an intermediate game. Seems people are overreacting all the time anymore, especially during rush hour.

Ok. I've let my opinion just spill out all over my laptop. I've killed some time and wasted some bandwidth and possibly your time. I think I'll get ready for the It's the Economy, Stupid! game by visualizing Dave Ramsey checking in at the Holiday Inn.

The Crusader Angel

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		Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Orca on Fri, 19 March 2004 22:12
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Fri, 19 March 2004 23:31
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Orca on Fri, 19 March 2004 23:48
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: icebird on Sat, 20 March 2004 01:10
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Kang on Sat, 20 March 2004 01:28
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: ForceUser on Sat, 20 March 2004 03:36
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Orca on Sat, 20 March 2004 22:44
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: ForceUser on Sun, 21 March 2004 05:26
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sun, 21 March 2004 17:46
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Kang on Mon, 22 March 2004 13:06
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Mon, 22 March 2004 13:38
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Tue, 23 March 2004 11:30
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Tue, 23 March 2004 12:21
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Tue, 23 March 2004 14:32
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Raindancer on Tue, 23 March 2004 15:47
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Tue, 23 March 2004 16:09
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Tue, 23 March 2004 12:29
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Ptolemy on Mon, 29 March 2004 00:10
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: iztok on Mon, 29 March 2004 01:16
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Ptolemy on Mon, 29 March 2004 01:21
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: mazda on Mon, 29 March 2004 02:10
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Hyena on Mon, 22 March 2004 14:01
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: ForceUser on Tue, 23 March 2004 13:40
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Tue, 23 March 2004 18:53
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: LEit on Tue, 23 March 2004 20:20
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Wed, 24 March 2004 05:40
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: LEit on Wed, 24 March 2004 09:24
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Wed, 24 March 2004 09:42
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Orca on Wed, 24 March 2004 10:15
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Wed, 24 March 2004 12:08
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Kang on Wed, 24 March 2004 13:30
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Wed, 24 March 2004 14:44
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Thu, 25 March 2004 09:12
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Thu, 25 March 2004 10:38
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Raindancer on Thu, 25 March 2004 08:53
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Wed, 24 March 2004 10:53
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Orca on Wed, 24 March 2004 10:12
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Tue, 23 March 2004 20:15
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: ForceUser on Wed, 24 March 2004 12:20
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: EDog on Wed, 24 March 2004 19:00
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Wed, 24 March 2004 18:53
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Thu, 25 March 2004 09:18
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Thu, 25 March 2004 09:43
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Thu, 25 March 2004 10:30
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: mazda on Thu, 25 March 2004 11:14
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Thu, 25 March 2004 11:24
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: LEit on Thu, 25 March 2004 12:39
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Thu, 25 March 2004 13:58
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Kotk on Thu, 25 March 2004 14:43
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Thu, 25 March 2004 15:14
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Thu, 25 March 2004 15:32
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: LEit on Thu, 25 March 2004 15:53
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Thu, 25 March 2004 16:06
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Thu, 25 March 2004 16:12
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: LEit on Thu, 25 March 2004 16:33
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Thu, 25 March 2004 17:07
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: LEit on Thu, 25 March 2004 17:26
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Thu, 25 March 2004 17:43
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: mlaub on Thu, 25 March 2004 19:59
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Kang on Thu, 25 March 2004 23:48
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Fri, 26 March 2004 05:37
		Proof of the pudding By: mazda on Fri, 26 March 2004 06:07
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Staz on Fri, 26 March 2004 07:03
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: mazda on Fri, 26 March 2004 07:32
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Staz on Fri, 26 March 2004 08:17
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Crusader on Fri, 26 March 2004 09:16
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Staz on Fri, 26 March 2004 10:29
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Ron on Mon, 29 March 2004 00:24
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Ptolemy on Mon, 29 March 2004 00:56
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Staz on Mon, 29 March 2004 05:43
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Ptolemy on Mon, 29 March 2004 05:50
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Alien on Mon, 29 March 2004 06:00
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Ptolemy on Mon, 29 March 2004 06:07
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Staz on Mon, 29 March 2004 06:11
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Ptolemy on Mon, 29 March 2004 06:39
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Staz on Mon, 29 March 2004 06:57
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Ptolemy on Mon, 29 March 2004 07:12
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Staz on Mon, 29 March 2004 07:37
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Ptolemy on Mon, 29 March 2004 08:28
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Staz on Mon, 29 March 2004 09:21
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: multilis on Tue, 30 March 2004 00:10
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Ptolemy on Tue, 30 March 2004 03:32
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Staz on Tue, 30 March 2004 04:01
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: donjon on Tue, 30 March 2004 04:30
		Re: Proof of the pudding By: Staz on Tue, 30 March 2004 05:09
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Hyena on Fri, 26 March 2004 01:40
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Fri, 26 March 2004 05:22
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: LEit on Thu, 25 March 2004 15:40
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Thu, 25 March 2004 15:54
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Thu, 25 March 2004 12:24
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Thu, 25 March 2004 12:48
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Thu, 25 March 2004 15:58
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Fri, 26 March 2004 05:27
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: iztok on Fri, 26 March 2004 08:54
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Fri, 26 March 2004 10:21
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Fri, 26 March 2004 10:33
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Fri, 26 March 2004 08:34
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Fri, 26 March 2004 08:51
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: mlaub on Fri, 26 March 2004 14:00
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Sat, 27 March 2004 06:45
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sat, 27 March 2004 07:41
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: overworked on Sat, 27 March 2004 11:45
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Kang on Sat, 27 March 2004 12:03
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Sat, 27 March 2004 13:42
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Sat, 27 March 2004 14:06
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: LEit on Sat, 27 March 2004 14:37
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Sat, 27 March 2004 17:10
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Kang on Sat, 27 March 2004 18:39
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Sat, 27 March 2004 19:34
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Kang on Sun, 28 March 2004 00:09
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Ptolemy on Sun, 28 March 2004 05:29
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sun, 28 March 2004 06:54
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: mazda on Sun, 28 March 2004 07:51
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sun, 28 March 2004 08:06
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: iztok on Sun, 28 March 2004 11:17
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Sun, 28 March 2004 06:56
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Ptolemy on Sun, 28 March 2004 07:17
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sun, 28 March 2004 07:42
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Ptolemy on Sun, 28 March 2004 07:56
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: mlaub on Sun, 28 March 2004 13:53
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Sun, 28 March 2004 16:56
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Sun, 28 March 2004 17:29
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sat, 27 March 2004 17:45
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: EDog on Sat, 27 March 2004 18:12
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sat, 27 March 2004 18:18
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: EDog on Sat, 27 March 2004 18:18
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sat, 27 March 2004 18:19
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sat, 27 March 2004 18:04
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Sat, 27 March 2004 18:32
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Alien on Sun, 28 March 2004 11:46
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Sun, 28 March 2004 12:00
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Alien on Sun, 28 March 2004 12:51
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Ptolemy on Sun, 28 March 2004 13:08
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Hyena on Sun, 28 March 2004 21:58
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Staz on Tue, 30 March 2004 10:04
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: donjon on Tue, 30 March 2004 11:40
		Re: Skill ranking (was RE: Mentorship) By: Crusader on Tue, 30 March 2004 13:00

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