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Re: Cruisers vs Battleships (Re: Maybe i am a little thick but...)

Thu, 18 March 2004 04:44

iztok

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Hi!

multilis wrote on Thu, 18 March 2004 03:36

When a ship costs half the minerals you can afford to have twice the ships...

Your ships don't cost a half. I did a quick testbed: a JoaT with BET, the same race without it, 1000 years forced gen, max tech.
A "horde" CC (6 MarkIV, 2 gorilla, 1 jammer 20, AD-8, mass 139) costs a BET race 19/31/9/77 and 28/37/13/128 a NoBET race. The discount is about 2/3. My late game CC (4 MagaD, 2 tech-21 sappers, elephant shields, 2 caps, TGMS-16 engine) costs 29/104/49/221, is faster and lighter, and can kill 3 BET CCs, even 4 if moving the last.

But late game beamer Nub (6 AMP, 6 CPS, 9 cap's, 3J30, 12 BD, TS10 engine) costs a BET race 222/288/156/807, while a NoBET pays 147/144/153/510. My late game experience says that the main limiting factor for building ships is germ, and after that iron. Since germ costs of both designs are equal, a BET race will produce only 2/3 of Nubs (a half of them if bora runs out first).

A BET can not be an advantage, because each generation of weapons costs close to the previous one, but does 3 times the damage. Compared to that a BET discount of 10-30% doesn't count much. As LEit already wrote: you killed that JoaT with bigger econ, more minerals and with the help of friends, not with BET.
BR, Iztok

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		Re: Cruisers vs Battleships (Re: Maybe i am a little thick but...) By: multilis on Wed, 17 March 2004 20:15
		Re: Cruisers vs Battleships (Re: Maybe i am a little thick but...) By: multilis on Wed, 17 March 2004 20:33
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		Re: Cruisers vs Battleships (Re: Maybe i am a little thick but...) By: iztok on Thu, 18 March 2004 04:44
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