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Sat, 14 December 2002 08:14

freakyboy

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Beamers are never useless - torpedo ships cant sweep mines without some beam weaponry Very Happy

But essentially you get a nubian - fill it with omegas and nexi. You get the iniative up to the maximum amount and such you either a fire first everytime or it's 50/50 against an identical fleet.

The design is as follows...

Nubian
3x engine of your choice
15x omega torpedos
21x nexus

This gives you max initiative. The omegas are more accurate (I'll explain later) and have a higher initiative than Armageddons. The max initative means you need an equal enemy ship to stand the risk of losing.

The reason for omegas is to fire first and should your enemy build beamers loaded up with jammers to the best tech you should still hit 50% of the time. The only way to NOT build an equal ship and still stand a chance of winning is to have a nubian with max moves and enough jamming, armour and sheilding to survive 2 volleys AND still be able to destroy your fleet in the first shot. I think only an IS nubian with jammer 50's stands even a chance - but IS weapons are so expensive you'll need more minerals by some considerable distance.

This nub design at max tech (using galaxy scoop) costs 678 resources and 864/288/675 kt of each mineral respectively. Which is a damned sight cheaper than a ship loaded with superlat and sheilds.

A nubian with 27 units of super lat and 6 AMPs and 3 overthrusters would survive a fair amount of time ship to ship, but it costs more than 4 times the resources, not as much minerals but still expensive. I think this is the only real design that would stand a chance - but it would take more than 2 shots ship to ship from this superlat nub to take down one of those omega nubs. equal numbers ship to ship this design would actually win come to think of it!!!!!!!! Wow - I just stumbled onto that as well!!! It could stand up to 10 volleys from those omega nubs before going down - not bad eh?

And just so you know Zoid - my experience is quite limited actually - i just know alot of the theory. And ...

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