| Re: AR How Do You Build Up Your Defenses? |
Wed, 05 February 2003 02:55   |
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Zoid I much prefer the game now where EVERYONE knows the little bugs, quirks and exploits.
Why? Because in 1996 if someone spotted just one or 2 of the major bugs they'd have an advantage.
Incase you all didn't notice when people host a game they usually stipulate which bugs/cheats can and can't be used.
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| Re: BSP |
Tue, 25 February 2003 20:50 |
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 yucaf |
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Messages: 100
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Just to add some comments on all the previous stuff, I think this is hardly considered a Cheat. First, as someone said, it is quite hard to put in place (because of player positions... no enemy status) - and the starting positions are features, so why not using them.
Second, in a real combat, when several fleets are attacking, they may well attack from different angles, even if it's only a distraction. You know, to confuse the one attacked until he realises where is there real big fleet. That way you can gain some extra approach before a decision is taken on what to do.
Now, I think that a player is cheating if he's giving ships to players without their agreement, and even worse if they are dead players. I find this simply gross, if there some "social side" to Stars  As a host, if a player complains about an attacker who suddenly give away ships to races that have never been in the sector just to change the starting positions, I would question the races to know if they agreed on that. Then I would take an arbitrary decision wether this was an abuse or a well coordinated attack. After all you can give your ships to a WM to gain some battle speed or to a RS race to get the benefit of their increased shielding, those are valid tactics.
But now, this I have never seen in a game, generally I rarely have more than 3 players with big fleets on the board, but of course in team games this can be frequent. Now, I would much more appreciate that the players try to play fair and bring enough ships to say it was a true coordinated attack, however, the battle board is not as realistic as I would like and we simply have to live with his (sometime weird) rules, bugs and false displays. SuperNova was bringing a bit more realistic approach here, but shhhh...  this subject is forbidden
FWIW,
YucaF
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| Re: AR How Do You Build Up Your Defenses? |
Tue, 25 March 2003 10:39 |
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| Micha wrote on Mon, 03 February 2003 05:56 |
Just a remark: you might consider chaff a bug (and abusing it a cheat), but you can't call chaffsweeping a cheat, it's not the same thing, you can "chaffsweep" with other ships too, I'd rather call it "crash sweep".
An example, one of my allies didn't had enough chaff to crash sweep into an enemy planet, however he had a bunch of old SFX in his fleet, he just started building a new SFX design, so he used these old SFXs to crash into the minefield  Worked perfect!
It's a legit tactic IMO, ships hitting a minefield make mines detonate, so the field gets smaller, so multiple ships and hits make the field disappear completely, nothing wrong with that ...
regards,
mch
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So how do you remember these things?  I had forgotten that I did that. (Though again, it did make sense at the time...). Your memory of things like that is one of the things that make you a good player!
Dancer
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