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Re: Known Cheats Thu, 22 May 2014 18:31 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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m.a@stars wrote on Fri, 23 May 2014 05:17
magic9mushroom wrote on Thu, 22 May 2014 13:32
Stars! AutoHost standard rules (proposed)

A pretty good try, mostly, I'd say. Cool


Thank you.

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Permissible race designs
- Races with the primary racial trait "Claim Adjuster" must take immunity to at least two environmental variables.
- Races with the primary racial trait "Jack of All Trades" must not take the lesser racial trait "No Advanced Scanners".
- In games not using the game option "Accelerated BBS Start", races with the primary racial trait "Hyper-Expansion" must take a listed colonist growth rate of 10% or less.

This has no business inside the "Standard". It isn't even close to any average "racial restrictions" used in most games. Shocked


Standard is CA Banned JoAT may not take NAS, I know. But I don't see the harm in allowing bi-immune CA; it enriches the game by unbanning as much stuff as possible while keeping the ubermonster CAs out.

Supergrowth HE has been proven to be overpowered in a non-AccBBS setup.

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False Public Player Scores - Permitted
- You may use the waypoint-1 task "Load Colonists" and the waypoint-0 task "Unload Colonists".

Same as above. Rolling Eyes


Well, the problem here is that the exploit literally consists of those orders. If you use those orders, you are using the exploit. Banning the exploit is the same as banning those orders.

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Warp 10.04 - Permitted
- You may set waypoints in such a manner that a ship travels more distance than the listed maximum of its warp number.

And now we'll go around creating "new" cheats out of simplest game mechanics? Confused


We've been over this. "max = 81" implies a check for "=< 81", whereas the check is in fact "< 82". It's definitely an unintuitive "feature", but it's considered commonplace and permissible. Sticking it in the list can't hurt.

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Battle board overload - Soft-banned
- If a token under your control is excluded from a battle due to the 256-token limit, you must immediately scrap the fleet containing that token.

And then everybody will be wondering why their game hard-crashed irrecoverably a few turns later. Laughing


???

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0.2% minimum damage - Banned
- You may not assemble a collection of fleets at a single location that is capable of firing more than 100 torpedo/missile salvos per round of battle.

Whoa! And that's supposed to cover most cases with big fleets and large empires gating/gathering defenders? 2 Guns


Yeah, this one was a kludge. But I'm honestly not sure where else to draw the line.

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Mine damage dodge - Banned
- You may not arrange your ship designs in such a manner that fleets can survive hitting a mine while taking less damage than the mine type's listed "Min damage done to fleet".

And this is supposed to cover all cases of so-called "tanking" too? Or will "tanks" be "soft-banned"? Or perhaps not banned at all? Sherlock


Not covering that. If you want it added to the rules of games you play, go ahead. But since none of us even understand what you're talking about, I can't exactly write it up into my proposal, can I?

Loucipher wrote on Fri, 23 May 2014 06:21
May I comment on some of your ideas?

You have clearly written:
magic9mushroom wrote on Thu, 22 May 2014 13:32
The point of this list is not to constrain, but to simplify

In the light of the above, I must say I disagree with the following:
magic9mushroom wrote on Thu, 22 May 2014 13:32
Permissible race designs
- Races with the primary racial trait "Claim Adjuster" must take immunity to at least two environmental variables.
- Races with the primary racial trait "Jack of All Trades" must not take the lesser racial trait "No Advanced Scanners".
- In games not using the game option "Accelerated BBS Start", races with the primary
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