Game name: All Us ARs..

AR only game for 4 or 6-7 players (35-40 planets per player), starting about 14th of June. For 4 players it will be in a small dense uni, for 6-7 small packed. If both starting Iron and Germ MCs will be 30, will the neutral host (looking for one ) regen the game.

Victory conditions:
Single-victory with highest score at 2520 or earlier with remaining players' consensus.

Game parameters:
- Max Minerals off
- Slow tech off
- AccBBS off
- Random events ON
- Public scores off
- Galaxy clumping off

Standard cheats disclaimer
Only split-fleet-dodge, repair-after-gating and chaff is allowed. Oh BTW the "Cheap Starbase" is explicitely allowed .
In disputed cases has game host the final word and can apply any punishment he deems fit.

Limitations:
About the only limitation I'd like to set, would be WRT player skill with an AR:

• All candidate players are required to submit to the neutral game host a game, where they got over 20k @ 2450 (AccBBC start, no MaxMin, alone in small packed uni) with his/her "for-this-game" AR race. If a candidate is unable to achieve that, he's not welcome.
  
• Non-mandatory handicap: leftover RW points WRT candidate's AR experience, up to 80 RW points left for multiple victories with the AR.
  BTW I have neither won, nor even finished any PBEM game with an AR, but IMO I know ARs well enough to leave 50 RW points.

Desired turn schedule:
5-7 turns per week (or faster, if all players would already submit their turns) to about turn 30, thereafter any player could request a slow-down to 3 turns/week. One "game-on-hold" of 1 week for each player. Players' consensus for longer breaks. Player missing 2 turns without notice would set game to hold, until replacement is found, or players' consensus to continue.

Player relations:
- All set to enemies
- No alliances
- No tech trading

orangered text marks changes to original game anouncement

BR, Iztok

[Updated on: Fri, 28 May 2010 02:54]

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[Updated on: Sun, 23 May 2010 06:24]

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I'd like to join the game.

iztok wrote on Sun, 23 May 2010 11:07

Oh BTW the "Cheap Starbase" is explicitely allowed

Oh, I've never played with it allowed. Better to look it up to remember how it works.

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Quote: where they got over 20k @ 2450 (AccBBC start, no MaxMin, alone in small packed uni) with his/her "for-this-game" AR race. I thought I had my race sorted out until I saw the AccBBS off bit (& cheap starbase allowed). I reckon I should retest that tho now.

Same here.

iztok wrote on Sun, 23 May 2010 11:07

Open for players' vote: - All enemies, - no communication... - tech trading, - add your own.

My vote/opinion:
no allies, no tech trading, all set to enemies

[Updated on: Sun, 23 May 2010 06:54]

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Hi!

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> Oh BTW the "Cheap Starbase" is explicitely allowed Oh, I've never played with it allowed. Better to look it up to remember how it works.

Sorry, this was a joke . AR is the only race that can't use that trick, because for it to work, ther must not be an orbital present.

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I thought I had my race sorted out until I saw the AccBBS off

2 reasons for it:
1) to delay a bit he iron crunch and
2) to allow a bit more race diversity. With AccBBS "on", crowding hits very fast, so "high" PGR is not desired. But with only 25k starting pop, many settings become more viable...

BR, Iztok

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iztok wrote on Sun, 23 May 2010 11:07

BTW I have neither won, nor even finished any PBEM game with an AR, but IMO I know ARs well enough to leave 50 RW points.

I wouldn't recommend this except the usage of the leftover points is part of your strat. You have already established quite a levelled playerfield due to the expected 20k at 2450 marge. No further penalties or boni should be needed.

iztok wrote on Sun, 23 May 2010 17:04

Sorry, this was a joke . AR is the only race that can't use that trick, because for it to work, ther must not be an orbital present.

Mmmh?
Why shouldn't you be able to use the cheap starbase trick as an AR when building a Dock, Starbase, Ultra or Deathstar?

And if asked I'd rather not be in favour of allowing it.

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[Updated on: Mon, 24 May 2010 04:10]

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I now have a race that can get 20k yr50


I vote for no cooperation, all set to enemy

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Hi!

Damn! I've completely missed marduk's "application". I appologize.

So what are we going to do? One solution would be 2 games of 4 players in small dense. That would make both games a bit slower, but would not alter the number of starting planets per player so drastically, than 8 players in small packed uni. Would also allow even more players to get in the game (but would need to wait for 6th if another player would apply), and maybe get us a race "checker" and a game host, that's obviously quite hard to come around nowadays.

Another thing that usually has big impact on the game is the "kill starbase" battle order, but since we'll all be playing ARs, we'd all be under the same bane. I'd like to hear your voice on this issue. So please cast your vote for:
- Split game in 2
- Ban "kill SB"

Will update second post with the results. I vote for split game, and have no opinion on the ban - either way is fine with me.

BR, Iztok

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Since seeing post I have been practising playing AR.

Have finally managed to get 22k+ by 2450 (although didn't manage last 10 turns) using a variation of one of Kotk's races with 16% PGR and no IFE. Not sure if such a race would be good enough for the cut and thrust of this game so will have to develop a QS AR

So would like to put my name in the hat for game now that I know I can make the grade.

Now have to see if I can make 60k with a 19% PGR as has been advertised as possible

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Altruist wrote on Thu, 27 May 2010 14:53

MUST the game file to prove 20k the exact race design used later in the game?

I tried to say that with the "with his/her 'for-this-game' AR race" phrase. OFC you can submit "a proof" with a different race, but the catch is the test race could be anything, even unplayable (like +OBRM) one. I wanted to make a candidate think in playability terms, not max_resources @ 2450 terms.

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splitting the game: rather not, I am in favour of using small packed for upto 9 players

9 players for 240 stars would be 27 planets per player. I announced this game with 35-40 planets per player with intention to give everyone some "room" to grow in relative peace for some turns. If I'd like to have crowded wild-knife-fighting game I wouldn't say AR-only.

It looks like we have another player candidate goober. That makes us 9, so I'll have to split us in two games, Marduk hosting one, and me another. This way we could also have one with AccBBS ON and another with AccBBS OFF. Am going to rearrange players's list in second post accordingly. Please let me know if it's OK with you.

BR, Iztok

[Updated on: Fri, 28 May 2010 03:05]

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