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Re: Mine cloaking? |
Mon, 10 November 2008 20:33 |
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You need to have a penetrating scan of the center of the minefield OR have a ship inside the minefield.
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Re: Mine cloaking? |
Mon, 10 November 2008 21:34 |
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Coyote wrote on Tue, 11 November 2008 02:33 | You need to have a penetrating scan of the center of the minefield OR have a ship inside the minefield.
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Additionally...
Minefields are 75% cloaked (at one place the help-file states 82% but that's wrong). So a ship with a normal scanning ability of 400-ly, sees all minefields 100-ly around... if the centre-point of the minefield is within this radius. If the centre-point is 102-ly away you won't see the minefield even if the field spreads out as much as 40ly.
Once you have discovered a minefield, it's uncloaked and you can keep it on your map for as long as you cover the centre-point with a normal scanner otherwise it vanishes again.
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Re: Mine cloaking? |
Tue, 11 November 2008 04:24 |
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Sure, you can find minefields when you're in them
This would be one of those situations where people forget the value of penscanners(or the price of NAS).
(pnodering)...and given that NAS has become fairly popular, might explain some of the difficulty that SDs have become (to oppose).
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Re: Mine cloaking? |
Tue, 11 November 2008 06:13 |
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magic9mushroom wrote on Tue, 11 November 2008 08:42 | But can you find it with normals?
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Yes, but for normal scanners minefields are 75% cloaked.
The distance is calculated from your scanner to the centre of the minefield.
gible wrote on Tue, 11 November 2008 10:24 | (pondering)...and given that NAS has become fairly popular, might explain some of the difficulty that SDs have become (to oppose).
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I guess you are implying that normal scanner cannot see minefields. That's wrong, see above.
As a matter of fact, NAS makes it much easier to detect minefields:
* Chameleon-scanner: 160/45-ly needs elec 6, that's 40/45-ly vs minefields
* Possum-scanner: 300-ly with NAS at already elec 5 and gives you 75-ly vs minefields
We have gotten quite many new players recently and for those SDs are really a tough nut. Even an experienced player will more likely attack a non-SD-neighbour. It's expensive in terms of lots of minesweepers and a hell of a micro-management to crack a well-played SD, so you leave them alone and pick the cheaper fruit, eh attack another PRT... if you can... mostly enough the SD is blocking you and you MUST attack him.
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Re: Mine cloaking? |
Tue, 11 November 2008 16:26 |
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magic9mushroom | | Commander | Messages: 1361
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gible wrote on Tue, 11 November 2008 20:24 | This would be one of those situations where people forget the value of penscanners(or the price of NAS).
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Oh god am I realising that. With everyone allied against me, I can't even trade for them.
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