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Gatling Question... Sun, 06 February 2005 12:23 Go to next message
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I was wondering if someone could clarify the mechanics of the Gatling class of beam weapons...

The way the description reads, I would expect the Gatling, once in range to dispense (Capacitors and Deflectors aside) 31 points of damage to all targets in range.

However, a recent battle in which I participated, painted a rather different picture.

I had a Battleship armed with 20 Gatlings.
My opponent had about a dozen destroyers, armed with 3 Gatlings apiece, and about 500 points of armour each.

I thought my BS would damage each destroyer in range by 620 points each turn.

As it turns out, my poor lumbering ship was torn to bits by the little people in a few turns of combat.

I'd be grateful if somebody could shed some light on this situation, so I can make better informed mistakes in the future. Smile



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Re: Gatling Question... Sun, 06 February 2005 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi ,

The gatlings damage each token in range so if your opponet have all his desroyer in 1 fleet ( token in battle ) you only do your damage once . If he split his fleet you would do damage to them all .


hope this helps you .


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Re: Gatling Question... Sun, 06 February 2005 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Damn!

I see where you're coming from now - that really helps.. thanks!

So... essentially, if you're being attacked by craft armed with Gatlings, then stack 'em all in a single fleet, and this virtually annuls the advantage of the Gatling.

...and I guess the converse is true of missiles/torpedoes? Chaff is useless if blocked together in one big fleet?

Sorry if these questions are all a bit dumb.
If nothing else, it strengthens my case for being involved in the next "beginner" game that kicks off! Very Happy



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Re: Gatling Question... Sun, 06 February 2005 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Storm wrote on Sun, 06 February 2005 18:48

Damn!

I see where you're coming from now - that really helps.. thanks!

So... essentially, if you're being attacked by craft armed with Gatlings, then stack 'em all in a single fleet, and this virtually annuls the advantage of the Gatling.

...and I guess the converse is true of missiles/torpedoes? Chaff is useless if blocked together in one big fleet?

Sorry if these questions are all a bit dumb.
If nothing else, it strengthens my case for being involved in the next "beginner" game that kicks off! Very Happy



To do them togeter in a fleet helps you only if they have the same desine ( the ships ) so that they become 1 token in battle .

Shaff also hold the missiles / torpedoes if they are at one fleet .


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Re: Gatling Question... Sun, 06 February 2005 13:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Storm wrote on Sun, 06 February 2005 17:48

...and I guess the converse is true of missiles/torpedoes? Chaff is useless if blocked together in one big fleet?


No, chaff will work fine if it is all in 1 fleet. The limit for missiles is 1 _ship_ killed per missile.

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Re: Gatling Question... Sun, 06 February 2005 13:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Thanks again for clearing that up.

I don't think the difference between fleets, ships, and tokens are really ever impressed enough on newbies.

An ignorance of those critical differences can be fatal. Smile



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Re: Gatling Question... Sun, 06 February 2005 22:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The main reason to use the gatling gun in battle is that it deals more firepower than the Colloidal and has far more initiative, at the cost of 1 range; so if your ships are lighter unarmored BBs up against armored BB beamers, they can give you an edge, or on cruisers against colloidal BBs they can give you at least a better chance.

Plus they're great for throwing on destroyers or cloaked cruisers for minesweeping, which is usually what they get used for.


[Updated on: Sun, 06 February 2005 22:51]

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Re: Gatling Question... Mon, 07 February 2005 05:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes...

To be honest, that's all I use them for. At the moment, I have a v heavily cloaked bunch of BBs swanning around in SD minefields.

I try to tell them not to get into combat, but sometimes they just don't listen. Rolling Eyes

Apparently, weapons in the Gatling class sweep mines as if they had a range 2 greater than that advertised.

...and, bizarrely, each one costs less resources to build than a Colloidal!



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Re: Gatling Question... Mon, 07 February 2005 15:30 Go to previous message
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Storm wrote on Mon, 07 February 2005 02:08

Yes...
Apparently, weapons in the Gatling class sweep mines as if they had a range 2 greater than that advertised.




I believe it's mentioned in the item description that gatling weapons sweep mines as if they were double their range.

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