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Endgame Comments Wed, 25 August 2004 23:49 Go to next message
Star Daze is currently offline Star Daze

 
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Registered: November 2002
Location: Seattle, WA or thereabout...
Dates are approximate.

2422: I arrive in the universe as a replacement for an SS race in next to last place with no allies. I have one planet (my HW), two scout ships, and an empty freighter orbiting a small Conflag colony on Midgard which BTW is the only other green planet I can see. Seeing that some sort of pop drop war had already started (and it was the only other liveable planet), I decided to pop drop it and take it over. I hated to make enemies right away, but I didn't have much of a choice. Also, considering what I started with, I wouldn't make it to the endgame, so my plan was to try and slow down the leaders.

2424: I've built a bunch of scouts and sent them out with a friendship message. I get one reply from the Collective saying no problem. I follow up with some good will messages to them. Watching the universe, I notice I have two JOATs above me and a CA below me and realize my chances for survival just went down a couple notches. I notice the Plats are aggressively scouting and colonizing far from their HW and pick them and the BFTs (just for being CA) as the lead races to slow down. I begin an aggressive campaign of pop-dropping their planets and was amazed at how many I took out before they started sending warships along. I have built a bunch of large freighters to bring the HW down to 33%, and my resources take a huge hit and stay basically horizontal at 2.5K for the next 20 years!

2430-2435: My scouts have now reached the Southern area of the universe and I realize two things; 1) The Conflags control a huge area and 2) their hab range isn't too close to mine. I send off a message requesting an alliance and they graciously accept. They were even willing to give up a couple worlds that were good for me to help me ramp up quicker. I put together a large fleet of about 20 large freighters full of minerals and about 250K pop and relocated (took basically all the minerals from my HW since I didn't expect it to last much longer). I needed to send them through BFT space to go South, but the 92% cloaking did the trick. I sign a NAP with the Conflags and they are nice enough to let me have two planets in their area that were bad for them. I start a campaign of putting up minefields whereever I can.

2440: Since I'm not having to build warships, I start building mining ships. By the end of the game I have 870 mining ships and plenty of minerals coming in.

2450: My colony down South, deep in Collective space, is thriving and I'm starting to slowly spread out. Resource curve is going vertical; later but beter than never. I now begin to think for the first time that I might make it to the end. I begin tech trading with my ally, but I definitely got the better end of that deal. We talk about whether it would be worth having them make a run for Nubians, but decide against it. Instead, we decide to go for BBs and by attacking, cripple other ecomonies before they can make it to Nubians. Things are going well. The Plat/Robot alliance is attacking the BFTs so the BFTs aren't attacking me and the Conflags seem to be biding their time. I propose to the BFTs about trading pen scanners for orb adj ships. They drive a hard bargain and I only got two, but it was worth it. They really helped me ramp up my planets.

2460: The Collective try to take over the Robots planets, but the Plats send reinforcements and the Collective fleet is decimated. I finally get the ultra-cloak and it wasn't long before I had pen scans on every planet.

2470: The Robots leave the game. The Conflags send a large attack fleet against the Plats. I'm crossing my fingers that the Conflags and the Plats don't form an alliance before they reduce each others fleets. Otherwise, the game would have been very different.

2480: I finally get my target tech levels and start producing capital ships. I even make it to first place for a short time before my ally overtook me again.

2490: The Plats attack me, but since I know their fleet makeup (mostly missle ships) and my minefields are slowing them down, I have time to build lots!!! of chaff and I win a substantial victory. I then press the attack against their planets. I soon get the chance to use the robber baron for the first time. Gotta love it!

2505: Notice the Conflags have the battle nexus and get a tad worried since I'm researching it and am still about 8 years away from getting it.

2507: I win another victory at the Plats HW and my ally just barely wins a battle at a major Conflag world. The game is over.

Comments on races:

The Seleni (SS): A good design, but didn't scout/expand nearly enough before I took over. The one real deficit was all expensive tech except weapons. Allies required. I have never played SS before and it was interesting.

The BFTs (-f CA): Got hurt quite a bit by the Plat/Robot offensive and a little by my aggresive pop dropping.

The Robots (warmonger): I'm guessing they must have had a bad race design since they were the only race behind me.

The Collective (-f JOAT): Well played, but was lucky in their position so they were able to grab the large area that they needed for their race. A staunch ally willing to make sacrifices for the team. Would partner up with them again anytime. Thumbs Up

The Conflagurators (JOAT): Very powerful economy, possibly HP, but with a low hab. Lead every other race in tech. In my opinion, some of their ship designs could have been better and I provided them with some suggestions. But their BBZ 2 at the end was a great design and had me wondering on how I was going to counter it. They started mining operations way too late for the few planets they owned. Got to help them learn about kamakazee attacks on bombers and protecting their mining fleets. Very Happy I think they learned the most from this game.

The Platonoids (JOAT): Strong race, well-played, good ship designs. An awesome opponent. Surprised me at the very end with their range 2 high-init beamers. I never did get the MPS dang it.

My thanks to all for giving me a chance early on. I had a lot of fun and hope you all did too. See you in some future universe.

-Star Daze

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Re: Endgame Comments Thu, 26 August 2004 09:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
SlaveOfSeven is currently offline SlaveOfSeven

 
Petty Officer 2nd Class

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Registered: January 2004
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I can never remember what happened in games, so this'll be more of a summary than a blow-by-blow account.

Let's see... decided to go for factoryless with 1-in-2 hab and grab as much as I could early on, seeing as it was a small crowded universe. Was banking on taking over a neighbour's territory early on and getting an early tech lead. Fortunately I was lucky with position and had virtually the whole of the south to myself after making a border agreement with the BFTs. Just as well as initial attempts to attack the Robots were... less than successful. Probably should have attacked them earlier, but as I had so much room to expand and they had so little territory it didn't seem worth it in the early stages. The BFTs would have been a better target, but wanted to keep that border agreement in place and rely on them to be a buffer between me and everyone else while I filled up the southern half of the galaxy.

Was considering going for an alliance with the BFTs, but as I had such a good position, and as they were tied up with the Plats and Conflags, was coming to the conclusion that I could go it alone (probably incorrectly heh). When Star Daze took over for the Seleni and inherited such a bad position I agreed to an alliance just so they could have some kind of shot at the game. In for a penny in for a pound, so I let them have a few planets and helped them out with tech with the hope that later in the game they would be able to return the favour, as indeed they did. Without their help the Conflags would have won at Harding. That would have been a big blow, so big thanks to Star Daze. Smile

First attempt at factoryless and I didn't play it well, but was very lucky in this game. Only player in the southern half of the galaxy. Alliances (or lack of) went well for me. The BFTs were on their own against everyone else. After the Robots dropped out, a pair from the BFTs, Plats, and Conflags really should have formed an alliance. Things might have been very different if that had happened. Was very aware of time ticking away and my factoryless state becoming more of a liability as the game progressed. But no one seemed inclined to put a stop to my expansion. Can't believe how much territory I managed to grab without anyone putting a stop to it! 37 planets at the end of the game but only 29k res. Laughing

Thanks for the game everyone, particularly my ally. Smile Was a lot of fun. Hope to see you all in future games.

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Re: Endgame Comments Fri, 27 August 2004 22:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
icebird is currently offline icebird

 
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Well, I put this game out of my kind a while ago, but I'll see what I can remember.

From the very start, I knew that I was going to go at it alone against the universe- I always (opponents in courent games take note Very Happy ) play HP, so I decided to try a -f. I played it badly- if I'd known what I was doing at the time, I would have crushed the Robots easily. I was a -f fighting a defensive war in the first twenty years. Evil or Very Mad I didn't even build any warships until after the Robots started attacking me!

I don't really remember much else, other than using a bad design for my warships, and not laying any minefields until way too late. That's about all I can remember at this point, so I'll shut up now.



-Peter, Lord of the Big Furry Things

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Re: Endgame Comments Sat, 28 August 2004 08:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
platon79 is currently offline platon79

 
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SlaveOfSeven wrote on Thu, 26 August 2004 09:13

But no one seemed inclined to put a stop to my expansion. Can't believe how much territory I managed to grab without anyone putting a stop to it! 37 planets at the end of the game but only 29k res. Laughing



I remember trying to give an in-game message warning about you after the "BFT is bad"-message, but apparently little was done.. Smile You was very lucky indeed with your starting position.

Well, I don't have a written record of this game, but I'll try to see what I remember.
I allied with the Robots early on, but they never did any well, and was allways in 6th.
I was constantly at war, first with the BFT at the Robots request, then with the Collective also, who attacked the Robots, then the Conflagurators attacked, and last with the Seleni.
I always seemed to be someplace behind my enemies scientifically. (Yes, the range 2 hi-init-beams were interesting, but I never got to range 3.. Smile )
Because of my starting position I never had more than 8-9 "ok" planets, tried to expand east early on, but the attempt was crushed by the Conflags.
This was my first game against humans (although I played 1.5 LAN-games in the middle of this game), and I learned a lot Smile

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Re: Endgame Comments Tue, 31 August 2004 02:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ForceUser is currently offline ForceUser

 
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Congrats on the victory! I wasn't following as close as I should have but you guys were basically maintanance free so it was fun Very Happy

Anyways, I'm thinking of hosting a whole bunsh of these games (Fast and very Furious) witha bit of mooded rules and perhaps ranked. Everybody will be more than welcome

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Re: Endgame Comments Tue, 31 August 2004 11:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Btw, is Ron told the game is over?

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Re: Endgame Comments Wed, 01 September 2004 06:07 Go to previous message
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I dropped him a line but I think hes a bit busy.

Anywyas, Go check the new game anounsments!

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