Stars on MacOS Catalina? |
Tue, 18 August 2020 11:11 |
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scottsch | | Petty Officer 1st Class | Messages: 61
Registered: September 2012 Location: Los Angeles, CA | |
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Has anyone managed to run Stars on a Mac with Catalina (OS v10.15)?
The official recommendation from Wine is don't upgrade to Catalina. Catalina dropped support for 32-bit apps like wine-stable. But I had to upgrade. I built 64-bit wine ( https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/373851/how-to-get- wine-working-on-catalina). I guess it's working. (It runs, though I haven't gotten it to open anything.) It doesn't like stars, though:
$ ./wine64 ../Stars/starsjrc4.exe
001d:err:environ:run_wineboot boot event wait timed out
001d:err:module:__wine_process_init L"Z:\\Users\\scottsch\\Downloads\\Stars\\starsjrc4.exe" not supported on this system
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Re: Stars on MacOS Catalina? |
Tue, 18 August 2020 23:27 |
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magic9mushroom | | Commander | Messages: 1361
Registered: May 2008 | |
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scottsch wrote on Wed, 19 August 2020 01:11Has anyone managed to run Stars on a Mac with Catalina (OS v10.15)?
The official recommendation from Wine is don't upgrade to Catalina. Catalina dropped support for 32-bit apps like wine-stable. But I had to upgrade. I built 64-bit wine ( https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/373851/how-to-get- wine-working-on-catalina). I guess it's working. (It runs, though I haven't gotten it to open anything.) It doesn't like stars, though:
$ ./wine64 ../Stars/starsjrc4.exe
001d:err:environ:run_wineboot boot event wait timed out
001d:err:module:__wine_process_init L"Z:\\Users\\scottsch\\Downloads\\Stars\\starsjrc4.exe" not supported on this system
Stars! is a 16-bit application and x86-64 architectures cannot run those. I don't know whether 64-bit Wine is mimicking an x86-64 architecture, but that would give that kind of error message.
The Starsbox design should work, since DOSbox has a 64-bit version, although you'd need to replace the DOSbox .exe it provides. VirtualBox will also work, but there's no prepackaged version of that with Windows and Stars that I'm aware of.
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Re: Stars on MacOS Catalina? |
Wed, 02 September 2020 15:18 |
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XAPBob | | Lt. Commander | Messages: 957
Registered: August 2012 | |
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magic9mushroom wrote on Sun, 23 August 2020 08:28raptor wrote on Sun, 23 August 2020 08:59scottsch wrote on Wed, 19 August 2020 03:52And... this worked in 60 seconds flat!
Are you saying that you ran StarsWine under 64-bit WINE on macOS?
If so, that's madness! (and great!)
I've seen mentions that the usual way to get a single instance of Wine to run both 32-bit and 64-bit is to nest 32-bit Wine inside 64-bit Wine, so it's not entirely mad.
But still a bit mad.
Really, the biggest madness is Catalina deciding to drop compatibility with 32-bit. That's Apple for you, I guess. Microsoft's heading the same way in anti-user philosophy, but even they aren't quite that dumb.
Not madness at all. Apple have always dropped support for things that are no longer required before others.
It's one reason MS software is so bad.. they maintain backward compatibility at the cost of everything else - usability, supportability, security....
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Re: Stars on MacOS Catalina? |
Mon, 07 September 2020 05:32 |
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XAPBob | | Lt. Commander | Messages: 957
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And virtualisation is the way to go for software like that.
Because it's the only way to guarantee long term support for abandonware, and with any cpu in the last decade or so there is very little penalty, and of course much lower demands anyway...
And if it isn't abandonware then recompiling for 64 bit... shouldn't be hard.
Apple were the first to drop PS/2 ports, serial ports, PATA drives, optical drives, parallel ports.... The list goes on.
It's one of the things they do - if they see a good connection that can replace stuff they do so, but then they support that connection for a long while.
There is currently an outcry because they aren't moving to USB-C for their phones... It wouldn't be hard to argue that whilst the USB-C connection is undeniably faster and delivers more power.... an iPhone isn't going to be exporting PCIe lanes anyway, and power delivery is already good enough.
At some point they will move, but they committed to supporting lightning for a decade, in the time Apple have used the 30 pin and the lightning connector there have been 3 changes to the USB connector on phones, and of course the change from whatever barrel or proprietary system various manufacturers were using before hand. And both the 30 pin and the lightning connector were way ahead of their time (for once something Apple got right before the crowd rather than after).
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