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Re: Unusual Game Concept Thu, 07 August 2003 03:04 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
Micha

 

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Captain Maim wrote on Thu, 07 August 2003 07:27


Alien Miner? Well if you have ARM why do you need the Alien Miner? I mean you could share it. um.. Maybe.. But that would involve destroying it or loning it out.. Unless your ARM it can't both terraform AND extract ore.. Though that could be kinda funny Smile

Yup, I too found it funny that you can't do both at the same time unless you are AR (not ARM Wink ) and this would provide some choices to make (maybe call the design Dilemma Grin "what to do what to do?? remote mine or terraform??" <pulling hair out>), makes the ship a bit more versatile, you could use it for what you need the most at a given time.
I found it's more interesting to give people a choice to what to do with the ship, having to make choices is good, else the use is just too obvious and you leave nothing for the player, you already made his choices for him.

This is IMHO one of the greatest things of Stars! - so may choices everywhere, in universe layout, race design, ship design, fleet design, strategies, ... nothing is ever the same! (Except for the CA monsters every now and then. Grin )

Back to the Super OA ship, some more motivations to put in some alien miners:
-AR takes ARM 99% of the time, to get the Super Bugs of course but also because it means you'll start with 2 Potato Bugs (not checking ARM doesn't give you any starting miners) and those 2 free miners provide a good mineral boost for the AR since the population mining is just very very lousy.
Taking those miners away is no good for AR who can use any help they can get at the start! With these Super OA ships the AR PRT becomes more attractive and better playable with more chance on survival! (I like it! I love AR and would play it more often if it wasn't so weak to start with ...) AR resources depend on planet % and their minerals depend on remote mining, this kind of Super OA ship will help them very well ... only problem for them is keeping it safe ... they're easily destroyed Sad Too bad you can't place the Multi Contained Munition in the back slot, it would give the ship some protection of his own, and you could lay mines, adding another choice! Grin Maybe MPS is the be
-other ARM races might be using some really crappy mine settings, some early alien miners might help them out a bit in the beginning (they also lose the initial free miners!)

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Ultra Miner Hull: Enigma Pulsar, 12 OA's and 3... What? Mega Poly Shells? or Multi Caro Pods? or 3 Multi Function Pods? Could do 3 Transport Cloaks.. Since those take no tech even SS could get them.


Put in the alien miner Wink and to make it easier on the AR put in the MPS, it gives the ship a bit more chance on survival.
The MFP will give it some protection since it has a good speed and the early fighting ships won't catch it easily (with AMs on board it might get to a movement of 2) ... but maybe more armor+shield is more useful ... don't know ... If the enemy wants your ship dead, it will be dead no matter what. And I think that taking out this starting ship will be one of the first goals of your enemies. Sad
Maybe check out what design can survive the initial starting ships of a WM? (scout and destroyer)
The cloacks mean nothing, everybody will be planet hopping with their scouts anyway, and since it will always be at a planet it's easily found.

mch
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