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Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10

Sun, 20 July 2008 11:07

Soobie

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magic9mushroom wrote on Sun, 20 July 2008 14:23

Think so, without it you have a hell of a time getting out enough colonisers to get the TGFS so early, then you hit mineral crunch before you have the Robo-Maxi-Miner which screws you over more... the whole point of the race is to optimise everything so you can avoid most of the iron crunch (funnily enough germ actually crunches first, but only just, because you're using a germ-hungry engine, but still...) because otherwise you're stranded for 10 years or more while you dig your way out of an Iron crunch. That's what really cripples 3i ARs, I'm still testbedding and it looks like it might get 16k+ by 2450, quite good. But yes, without IFE you could get W cheap, which would help a lot outside of a testbed.

Update: 2680 resources in 2420, research 12-0-9-7-4-0 I think. Quite decent huh?

I copied your race but made prop exp, el normal and w cheap. 2420: 11-8-3-9-4-0 with W10 in 1 turn. Only 2570 res - mainly the -1 on En I'm thinking. Perhaps the crappy planet draw but that's me making lame excuses. Tried a variant with prop and el expensive with ISB and stopped at EL2. 11-10-2-9-2-0 on 2500 res, with prop3 next turn and then some. Got higher en earlier - makes quite a difference. Had a good planet draw too, so that'll make my lame excuse up there, well, lame. Smile

Trying to hold about 40 planets was also pretty lame.

While the tech was there for collie CCs the mins and production capacity make it interesting ... with the ISB variant, most planets had about 74~78 res, so FM collie CCs with some MJs and Bears is about 230 res ... that's about 40 Mvmt 1.75 Collie CCs around 2425 if you can find the minerals ... and if you can last that long ... Wink

I see what you mean by the colonising with less than 2.2k. I found 1.5K was easy maths ... I'll have to retest one day focusing on res instead of war tech one day Smile

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		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: Dogthinkers on Tue, 17 October 2006 00:49
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		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: knightpraetor on Tue, 17 October 2006 13:34
		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: Carn on Wed, 21 February 2007 08:25
		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: Dogthinkers on Wed, 21 February 2007 20:59
		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: Carn on Thu, 22 February 2007 05:14
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		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: iztok on Thu, 22 February 2007 02:06
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		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: Carn on Sat, 24 February 2007 09:29
		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: iztok on Sat, 24 February 2007 17:18
		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: Dogthinkers on Sun, 25 February 2007 17:52
		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: iztok on Mon, 26 February 2007 01:42
		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: magic9mushroom on Sat, 19 July 2008 07:56
		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: Soobie on Sat, 19 July 2008 22:45
		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: magic9mushroom on Sun, 20 July 2008 00:53
		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: Soobie on Sun, 20 July 2008 11:07
		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: magic9mushroom on Mon, 21 July 2008 05:58
		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: Soobie on Mon, 21 July 2008 17:39
		Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10 By: magic9mushroom on Mon, 21 July 2008 19:31

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