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Re: so if you go 1/25 instead of 1/10

Thu, 22 February 2007 05:14

Carn

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Dogthinkers wrote on Thu, 22 February 2007 02:59

Export and colonise aggressively from the start, and it can produce some startling results - it's VERY FAST in early game (into the 2420's) but suffers in mid-game from sluggish growth... Should become awesome in the late game, but I would expect the race to be killed in that long mid-game period while it struggles with it's extreme low growth rate.

Colony Ship with w5 engine cost 41 resources. red planet with 2200 produces around 8 resources (en 5). But you spend 35 kt iron and 30 kt germ or so.
Counting iron as germ, this would equal 15 facs for 4 kt germ and cost 2.5 and efficiency 5.
So for AR all uninhabitated planets are possibilities for mineral intensive but fast repaying facs(and switch of terraform for reds).

So as long as you do not mind minerals as an AR colonize everything, no need for scouting.

For 3i this changes drastically, 2200 produce 33(more 28 due to pop loss on HW) resources with en 5. This means building colonies is for 3i the same as for others building facs with cost 2.5 and effciency 15-20. So just as normal race produces facs until out of germ, a 3i AR(and to lesser extent all ARs) produces colony ships until out of minerals - and do not waste anything on scouts, scrap the initial one.

And this is the reason, why 3i AR must have 50 points leftover on min con and ARM, because that allows to build far more colonizers before research in con and elec for miners need to be done.

Of course this is only true for eff 1/10(which 3i and 1i have).

Dogthinkers wrote on Thu, 22 February 2007 02:59

The 1i race is in a game right now, so I don't want to go into more detail... It does feel a lot more robust than my last AR outing. It had a poor start, but still managed to chew over some quite serious attempts to hurt it pre-weap12. It's currently 2470 and the top ranked 3i HE over on the other side of the universe is waving a pitchfork and calling it a monster.

The others did something wrong if 3i HE and AR are leading the pack. ...

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