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Re: When to lay heavy mines?

Mon, 18 October 2004 06:16

Carn

Officer Cadet 4th Year

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Staz wrote on Sun, 17 October 2004 19:55

That got me thinking whether a galleon hull would be better. A load of neutronium on one of these would enable it to survive a heavy mine hit. Again you'd go for warp-10, speed 2.5, range 3 beams but now armour and shields each over 1000:

Tough Freighter (NRSE/NAS/RS)
Galleon
4 x IS-10
5 x gorilla shields
2 x neutronium
1 x overthruster
1 x man jet
1 x RNA scanner
1 x heavy blaster

This is not a fully loaded design to try and keep the cost down (491 resources for the race I designed it for). You could easily add 2 more heavy blasters, another scanner, another shield, make it 2 OTs and add a couple of cloaks (now 606 resources).

Even the cheap version costs significantly more than a basic large freighter. However, if your enemy has got skirmishers or minelayers into your shipping lanes then the LF is just too vulnerable.

So, when I see that my SD enemy is running MMLs through my territory and dropping heavy minefields everywhere I shift to using the tough freighters. If these hit a mine they didn't see then they survive, if they get attacked by a skirmisher then they fire while retreating, and if they are empty they can be used to chase and kill the MMLs - and then collect the salvage.

But the damage goes up with the number of engines, so is it realy good to use a 4 engine ship in case of minefields?

And something that i observed ones in game, but have not yet tested, is that the minimum damage to fleet is multiplied by the number of engines. An enemy BB tried to cross one of my normal minefields and it stopped and recieved 2000 points of damage, which is just 4 times the minimum damage done by normals to a single fleet.
So if thats true, a galleon containing fleet will always take at least 8000 points of damage inside a heavy field.

BTW, if thats true, and i'm going to test, when i have stars again, any idea what damage a fleet having a 4 engine non ramscoop ships and a 1 engine ram scoop fleet receives?

Carn
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		When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Thu, 13 May 2004 09:38
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: vonKreedon on Thu, 13 May 2004 10:20
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Mon, 17 May 2004 07:35
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Mon, 17 May 2004 09:02
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Mon, 17 May 2004 15:15
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Mon, 17 May 2004 17:45
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Micha on Mon, 17 May 2004 18:29
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Tue, 18 May 2004 11:19
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Tue, 18 May 2004 11:41
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Tue, 18 May 2004 12:18
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Tue, 18 May 2004 12:51
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Tue, 18 May 2004 13:59
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Micha on Mon, 17 May 2004 07:56
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Tue, 18 May 2004 02:12
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: mlaub on Tue, 18 May 2004 13:04
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Tue, 18 May 2004 14:03
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: mlaub on Tue, 18 May 2004 15:37
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Wed, 19 May 2004 03:58
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: wizard on Wed, 19 May 2004 08:32
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: mlaub on Wed, 19 May 2004 14:49
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Sat, 16 October 2004 13:01
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Sat, 16 October 2004 14:05
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Staz on Sat, 16 October 2004 17:04
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Micha on Sat, 16 October 2004 18:04
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Sat, 16 October 2004 20:13
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Staz on Sun, 17 October 2004 07:10
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Sun, 17 October 2004 07:34
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Sun, 17 October 2004 11:06
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Staz on Sun, 17 October 2004 13:55
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Mon, 18 October 2004 02:35
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Mon, 18 October 2004 06:16
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Staz on Mon, 18 October 2004 06:31
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Mon, 18 October 2004 06:59
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Sun, 17 October 2004 04:35
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Mon, 18 October 2004 06:16
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Mon, 18 October 2004 08:24
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Mon, 18 October 2004 09:41
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: mlaub on Wed, 19 May 2004 14:23
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: multilis on Mon, 18 October 2004 14:30

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