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Re: When to lay heavy mines?

Tue, 18 May 2004 13:04

mlaub

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iztok wrote on Tue, 18 May 2004 01:12

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4. Avoid fighting experienced SD player if you aren't ready for heavy MM Wink

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5. Wait until Nubs, then make it just as difficult for them. Smile

IS is the easiest race to counter an SD (tacheons), but any race can do it if motivated. Tacheons aren't strictly necessary. Using cloaked minelaying Nubs, you can make them feel the pain too.

Basic Ship Design:

Nub
1 Big Mutha stack
1 Best shield
4 Cloak ( 98% )
6 Mine

You already have a cloaked Nub design with scanners, right? So placement is rather simple (at least I think so).

In basic terms, you layer/leapfrog your approach to an enemy with these ships. While he can move and lay in the same turn, you can't. This means you need 2x the layers that he has to do the same job.

On the flipside, I've found that "many" SD players do not understand how to sweep effectively. So, presenting them with a minefield "wall" screws them up completely. They must seem to consider it more powerful than it really is, probably because they themself's can't cope with minefields effectively.

Some additional points for both sides.

As an SD, never leave your ML's in the same spot if you can avoid it, yoyoing is best as an SD. Seems simple enough, but I keep getting easy ML kills. Don't be predictable, either. Just in the last game, I killed >50 SML's against one of the best SD players I have ever played against. In comparison, I lost 3 of the 49 cloaked Nub minlayers I was using, and those were my own goofs...

Pairs of minelayers work great. 2 minelayers spaced apart by a few ly's, will lay a single field between them. You can leave them at that location year to year, not worring that someone will sweep to the center of the field will intercept them. Obviously, don't do this against an IS, NAS JOAT, or anyone who has proven to be an expert at finding cloaked ships...

Study the percentage chance of hitting SD minefields, and viceversa. I have noticed a trend that SD player ...

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		When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Thu, 13 May 2004 09:38
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: vonKreedon on Thu, 13 May 2004 10:20
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Mon, 17 May 2004 07:35
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Mon, 17 May 2004 09:02
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Mon, 17 May 2004 15:15
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Mon, 17 May 2004 17:45
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Micha on Mon, 17 May 2004 18:29
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Tue, 18 May 2004 11:19
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Tue, 18 May 2004 11:41
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Tue, 18 May 2004 12:18
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Tue, 18 May 2004 12:51
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Tue, 18 May 2004 13:59
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Micha on Mon, 17 May 2004 07:56
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Tue, 18 May 2004 02:12
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: mlaub on Tue, 18 May 2004 13:04
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Tue, 18 May 2004 14:03
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: mlaub on Tue, 18 May 2004 15:37
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Kotk on Wed, 19 May 2004 03:58
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: wizard on Wed, 19 May 2004 08:32
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: mlaub on Wed, 19 May 2004 14:49
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Sat, 16 October 2004 13:01
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Sat, 16 October 2004 14:05
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Staz on Sat, 16 October 2004 17:04
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Micha on Sat, 16 October 2004 18:04
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Sat, 16 October 2004 20:13
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Staz on Sun, 17 October 2004 07:10
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Sun, 17 October 2004 07:34
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Sun, 17 October 2004 11:06
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Staz on Sun, 17 October 2004 13:55
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Mon, 18 October 2004 02:35
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Carn on Mon, 18 October 2004 06:16
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Staz on Mon, 18 October 2004 06:31
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Mon, 18 October 2004 06:59
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Sun, 17 October 2004 04:35
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: iztok on Mon, 18 October 2004 06:16
		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: Robert on Mon, 18 October 2004 08:24
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		Re: When to lay heavy mines? By: mlaub on Wed, 19 May 2004 14:23
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