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icon10.gif  Poll: What game should I host next? Fri, 26 March 2004 08:12 Go to next message
overworked is currently offline overworked

 
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Which game next?[ 19 votes ]
1. CHoS V 5 / 26%
2. RWIAB III 2 / 11%
3. Transformers 10 / 53%
4. Qbert 2 / 11%

Got some time right now, but also have a big team game that promises to be a BIG time-sucker on the horizon. Therefore, I figure I can spare the effort to get a new game started as a non-playing/observer host.

Therefore a poll. Results not guaranteed to be my decision, but I will take it as a heavy recommendation indicating some interest from the player community.

Quick Summary of what the various game names are. Full details will be in the game advertisement when it comes out:

CHoS V - 5th game in the "Children's Hour of Science" series.
Eight races plus a central observer in a medium sparse. Generally used for beginners or low intermediates to get their feet wet. Observer/host will answer questions of a general nature, but avoids giving specific tactical advice. The previous four games tended to run in pairs since I got a good response and then attempted to pack what seemed to be the better players together.

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RWIAB III - 3rd series of "Rabid Weasel In A Box".
Eight or nine races in a small packed. All races must be AR, or use factory settings where factories cost 25 resources to build (-f races essentially). I would consider this an intermediate game. Players from RWIAB IIa, IIb, and IIc are about - plus there are reviews viewable in the game forums.

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Transformers - "new" series
Eight or nine races in a medium normal. Intermediate game.
Two special rules:
1. No DN, BB, B-52, or Nubian hulls can be used.
2. Nothing over Tech level 20 can be put on a hull.
One "bonus":
All players will receive 5 special "Transformer" ships at the start of the game. These will be an ultra-miner hull fully loaded with Orbital Adjustor modules.

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Qbert

Eight or nine races in a medium sparse. Going to remap the galaxy into a series of squares just to toss a different star geometry into play. Vanilla other than that.

- Kurt

[Edit to fix RWIAB description typo]


[Updated on: Fri, 26 March 2004 11:11]

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Re: Poll: What game should I host next? Fri, 26 March 2004 10:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Either of the new varieties, although I voted for Transformers.
I fancy a game in Sparse so I like Qbert as well.

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Re: Poll: What game should I host next? Fri, 26 March 2004 10:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hi!
overworked wrote on Fri, 26 March 2004 14:12

RWIAB III
...or use factory settings 5/x/25 (-f races essentially).

25 factories controlled is probably a typo.
BR, Iztok

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iztok wrote on Fri, 26 March 2004 10:36

Hi!
overworked wrote on Fri, 26 March 2004 14:12

RWIAB III
...or use factory settings 5/x/25 (-f races essentially).

25 factories controlled is probably a typo.
BR, Iztok


Yes. My error. The game description rule for RWIAB II was "AR or cost 25 factories" essentially. I've edited the post to make the same distinction.

- Kurt

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icon14.gif  Re: Poll: What game should I host next? Fri, 26 March 2004 23:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Looky there. You done went and got you 11 votes. Logically, that means there should be 11 players looking for a good game to join, probably hosted by one kind but "overworked" individual. Sneaky

Now, I know that only 5 voted for Transformers with the other 6 scattered on the other selections, but surely we can all agree that Transformers ain't all that bad a choice. I voted for Qbert all by my little, ol' lonesome, but I ain't feeling bad about that none.

Crying

Nope. Not bad a t'all.

'Course, they is still 5 votes outstanding heah. Why them 5 votes could cause a complete turnaround to any of the other 3 choices, now couldn't they? Shore they could! Very Happy

Y'all other players out there in Web Land; y'all c'mon down and git y'all's votes on it now so's we can study us a little war.

Twisted Evil

The Crusader Angel



Nothing for now.

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Re: Poll: What game should I host next? Sat, 27 March 2004 01:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Another vote in for transformers.

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Re: Poll: What game should I host next? Sat, 27 March 2004 05:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crusader wrote on Sat, 27 March 2004 04:33

I voted for Qbert all by my little, ol' lonesome, but I ain't feeling bad about that none.


I'd play Qbert as well !
So that's two of us in a Tiny sparse, remapped into squares.
Might as well stretch it to medium as well for good measure.

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Thanks to all who have responded to the poll so far. I do appreciate the feedback. Votes are being accepted for a few more days still.

One variation I'm tempted to try for Qbert is using a pattern like the old Q*bert video game (i.e. a 2d representation of a set of a 3D pyramid of steps made from cubes.)

Guess I need to build some template files and play with UC a bit to see what it would look like. Smile

[Edit: Played with UC today. Main issue is that the number of stars in a medium sparse is a bit thin for filling out a "Q*bert" screen pattern. Still experimenting, but what I generally get "hints" at the general shape - and might be good enough to work from. Latest actually looks a bit like a snowflake actually.]


- Kurt

P.S. - If someone else wants to host one of the set-ups that I do not use contact me and I'll help out with the particulars. (Though I'd like to keep "ownership" of the CHoS and RWIAB names if I could.)


[Updated on: Sat, 27 March 2004 23:02]

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Re: Poll: What game should I host next? Mon, 29 March 2004 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You no longer using the special hull rules in CHoS?

That's what drew me to CHoS in the 1st place, being limited to hulls less than 8 slots or less than con tech 12 (can't remember exactly).

Alric - winner of Children's Hour II

LEit lucked out by being placed into Hour I cos of his race design otherwise I'd have beaten him Twisted Evil

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alric wrote on Mon, 29 March 2004 13:36

You no longer using the special hull rules in CHoS?

That's what drew me to CHoS in the 1st place, being limited to hulls less than 8 slots or less than con tech 12 (can't remember exactly).

Alric - winner of Children's Hour II

LEit lucked out by being placed into Hour I cos of his race design otherwise I'd have beaten him Twisted Evil


There actually was two separate "CHoS" series. The first two were the limited hull games in a small universe. First place I ever saw an OBRM AR race too.

Since then I re-used the abbreviation for four beginner games. the CHoS V of the poll would be an extension of this series. "Transformers" is the descendent essentially of the first CHoS series since it's a limited hull game of a sort.

- Kurt

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Re: Poll: What game should I host next? Tue, 30 March 2004 00:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Transformers got my vote.

I wonder what type of engine, those 'Transformers' get. In such a game this may be an important consideration.

More valuable than a HW, I can see lots of effort going into keeping them moving and alive and trying to kill them (perhaps with cloakers). Interesting effect on war (offensive weapons?).



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Re: Poll: What game should I host next? Tue, 30 March 2004 00:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Transformers sounds very cool, wish I could join Crying or Very Sad

One thing - those are BIG orbital adjusters - 12 each IIRC. I doubt it'd take more than a 2 or 3 years to fully terraform yellow worlds. Perhaps limiting them to just 2 or 3 ships each each might increase their 'high-value-target' impact on the game...?

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And how long would it take for 2 or 3 of them to UN-terraform world back to yellow (with next to no defenses as a result)? Very Happy (And there will be lots more former yellows floating around in a game like this)

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hmmm, 5*12=60... 60 ticks unterraforming in a single year... Puke2

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multilis wrote on Tue, 30 March 2004 01:43

And how long would it take for 2 or 3 of them to UN-terraform world back to yellow (with next to no defenses as a result)? Very Happy (And there will be lots more former yellows floating around in a game like this)




Going to answer the last three posts at once...

1) The "Transformer" ship is technically a leftover from a collapsed empire (the races are picking up the pieces). Therefore, the ships are tech beyond current capability (i.e. the tech limit special rules). Therefore, they will be equipped with TS-10 engines and are (especially early game) high maneuverable. Also, the load-out of the "nose" slot (3 elec/mech/scanner/armor) can be selected by the player. The only rule here is that no scanner beyond a DNA Scanner can be put on the ship. So a player will have the option of putting armor, cloaks, scanner, etc. If they want to use up the slots I guess I will allow them to mix types.

2) I expect the ships to have considerable value to the players. They are very useful for development, *and* for offensive purposes. Thus I half-expect they will be targetted when opportunity permits.

3) I picked five as the number of ships to allow some capability in keeping up with expansion, along with some ability to survive the loss of one or two ships. But, there are not so many of these ships to make them cheaply expendable.

And I'll collect feedback and see what can be tweaked to improve things if there is a sequel.

- Kurt

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Poll closed. Thanks to all that voted.

Transformers a clear winner, followed by CHoS V.

I'll put together a game advert in the next couple of days.

Given the upcoming Easter holiday I will consider delaying game start until April 19th or so. That should allow plenty of time for sufficient players to be gathered and race files submitted.

- Kurt

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