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Your favorite -f JOAT

Sun, 22 June 2003 21:49

boneandrew

Crewman 1st Class

Messages: 35
Registered: June 2003
Location: Detroit

All this talk about the greatness of JOAT Rolling Eyes

has me thinking about an interesting possible design:

The Gerbils
IFE, NRSE, OBRM, NAS
Grav and Temp immune, rad 6 to 26 (1 in 5)
15% growth
1000 resources, 5/25/5 factories, 10/3/11 mines
weapons, con, elec cheap
ene normal
prop, bio expensive (tech 4 not checked)
5 points to surface minerals

Due to the JOAT's innate 20% more pop per planet and the OBRM, this race could ramp up quickly despite the 15% growth for a -f race - especially with the 2 immunities. And the low rad allows for more potential non-overlapping habs with allies.

One thing about -f JOATs in general is that the starting tech 3 really allows them to gain some pretty impressive tech more quickly than anyone else.

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Re: Your favorite -f JOAT

Wed, 02 July 2003 13:27

boneandrew

Crewman 1st Class

Messages: 35
Registered: June 2003
Location: Detroit

Well, well. This race IS competitve. I just finished a test bed - small, packed, ACCBSS, max minerals, etc. universe and got 31k@2450. I also had 109 battleships of the following design made by 2464:

Interspace 10, overthruster
20 Armageddon Missiles
6 Battle Nexi
8 Bear Neutrino Barriers
6 Valanium Armors

Not too bad, eh? Cool

[Updated on: Sun, 06 July 2003 22:13] by Moderator

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Re: Your favorite -f JOAT

Wed, 02 July 2003 16:39

Crusader

Officer Cadet 2nd Year

Messages: 233
Registered: January 2003
Location: Dixie Land

Not bad at all. A bit scary, in fact. Shocked

That double immunity must have helped available greens and terra ramp up a LOT.

Uh oh! Idea alert! Idea

I'll have to get back to youz guyz.

The Crusader Angel

Nothing for now.

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Re: Your favorite -f JOAT

Sat, 05 July 2003 09:24

The Taubat

Officer Cadet 3rd Year

Messages: 263
Registered: December 2002

I tested this race cept with the rad all the way to the right, I think you have more planets with the rad all the way to the right, in a meduim normal it gets green planets easily, and you have no use for TT, Razz

but I took CE and not NRSE, had quite a few planets, should start the whole thing all over again, this time play seriosly.

Royal Sha'a'kar of the Taubat people

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Re: Your favorite -f JOAT

Thu, 30 October 2003 19:10

The Taubat

Officer Cadet 3rd Year

Messages: 263
Registered: December 2002

ok, re-tested this race with 18% GR, while you can only take 2 cheap, even with and IFE and ISB, I really dont find two years till 500K on your HW worth 200 RW points better spent elsewhere, into making it more competetive in the LATE game era, I mean, sure you also get 10K of pop more than you would taking 15% GR, I am continuing to test these Bi-Immune races, which I find competetive.

Royal Sha'a'kar of the Taubat people

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Re: Your favorite -f JOAT

Thu, 06 November 2003 15:25

Zathras

Crewman 1st Class

Messages: 32
Registered: September 2003

I would not take CE. CE is good on the design wizard, not so good in tactics.

Zathras

Don't be tempted, just say no.

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Re: Your favorite -f JOAT

Thu, 06 November 2003 21:01

The Taubat

Officer Cadet 3rd Year

Messages: 263
Registered: December 2002

well CE may cause some problems, I would have to lose either ISB or IFE, and without either of em can cause more of a slow down than CE, well know which is better after the quick duel using an 18% and 15% with bone, once he replys to my e-mail that is.

Royal Sha'a'kar of the Taubat people

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Re: Your favorite -f JOAT

Wed, 08 June 2005 15:13

SinicalIdealist

Chief Warrant Officer 3

Messages: 184
Registered: October 2003
Location: North-left US

I've tried a similar design w/ 2 cheap and 17%. I'm pretty sure that one hit 40k by 50 in the low MM test I did.

Ramped very nicely, but ran out of planets quite fast too.

g.e.
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in their various garages. Then, faintly, I hear voices from another star.
(I clocked it once, and the reception is best between 3:00 A.M. and 4:45
A.M.). Of course, I don't usually tell people this when they ask, "Say,
where do you get your ideas?" I just say I don't know. It's safer."
-P. K. Dick

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