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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Sun, 05 April 2020 21:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
magic9mushroom is currently offline magic9mushroom

 
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XAPBob wrote on Mon, 06 April 2020 01:09
Having not spotted anything to the contrary I'm assuming that the starting positions will be at the default of "Further"...


Derp. I'm umming and ahhing between Further and Distant; does Distant tend to squish people up against the edge of the map?

EDIT: It seems to, so it'll be Further.


[Updated on: Mon, 06 April 2020 02:27]

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Tue, 07 April 2020 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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magic9mushroom wrote on Mon, 06 April 2020 02:53
XAPBob wrote on Mon, 06 April 2020 01:09
Having not spotted anything to the contrary I'm assuming that the starting positions will be at the default of "Further"...


Derp. I'm umming and ahhing between Further and Distant; does Distant tend to squish people up against the edge of the map?

EDIT: It seems to, so it'll be Further.


More importantly... The default isn't Further, it's Moderate.... Or does it depend on other things in the stars installation/settings chosen before hitting the new game wizard?

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Tue, 07 April 2020 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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XAPBob wrote on Wed, 08 April 2020 00:20
magic9mushroom wrote on Mon, 06 April 2020 02:53
XAPBob wrote on Mon, 06 April 2020 01:09
Having not spotted anything to the contrary I'm assuming that the starting positions will be at the default of "Further"...


Derp. I'm umming and ahhing between Further and Distant; does Distant tend to squish people up against the edge of the map?

EDIT: It seems to, so it'll be Further.


More importantly... The default isn't Further, it's Moderate.... Or does it depend on other things in the stars installation/settings chosen before hitting the new game wizard?

It depends on the difficulty, of all things. If you're on Harder or Expert the default's Further; if you're on Easy or Standard it's Moderate.

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Tue, 07 April 2020 14:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm happy sticking with 'Further'... just spotted the discrepancy whilst throwing up a test bed.

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Tue, 07 April 2020 23:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Game is still open until 20th April.

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Wed, 08 April 2020 03:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll play as well.

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Thu, 09 April 2020 04:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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With 12 players declared we are looking at...

Quote:
5-6: Small Dense
7-8: Medium Sparse
9-10: Medium Normal
11-12: Medium Dense
13-14: Large Sparse
15-16: Large Normal


Medium dense.
The jump to Large Sparse is quite significant in terms of design.

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Thu, 09 April 2020 15:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Intriguing. I will consider joining.
One question though. I like your one winner, avoid helping others win, just help each other stopping the monster philosophy, but what about tech trading then? Is it allowed or not? If it is allowed, it would greatly help those seeking out early "alliances". And is it a com or no-com game?
I think I would prefer a non-com no tech trade game myself due to the less time involved, but then again I have not decided to join yet and all the other people have perhaps a lot of self isolating time on their hands and want to bring on the full diplomacy Wink

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Thu, 09 April 2020 17:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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platon79 wrote on Thu, 09 April 2020 12:46
Intriguing. I will consider joining.
One question though. I like your one winner, avoid helping others win, just help each other stopping the monster philosophy, but what about tech trading then? Is it allowed or not? If it is allowed, it would greatly help those seeking out early "alliances". And is it a com or no-com game?
I think I would prefer a non-com no tech trade game myself due to the less time involved, but then again I have not decided to join yet and all the other people have perhaps a lot of self isolating time on their hands and want to bring on the full diplomacy Wink

Anything that's not explicitly prohibited is permitted. So, tech trade all you want and if you want to communicate with others - go for it. If you don't want to communicate with others, just tell everyone who approaches you to take a hike Smile

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Thu, 09 April 2020 17:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Braindead wrote on Thu, 09 April 2020 17:01
platon79 wrote on Thu, 09 April 2020 12:46
Intriguing. I will consider joining.
One question though. I like your one winner, avoid helping others win, just help each other stopping the monster philosophy, but what about tech trading then? Is it allowed or not? If it is allowed, it would greatly help those seeking out early "alliances". And is it a com or no-com game?
I think I would prefer a non-com no tech trade game myself due to the less time involved, but then again I have not decided to join yet and all the other people have perhaps a lot of self isolating time on their hands and want to bring on the full diplomacy Wink

Anything that's not explicitly prohibited is permitted. So, tech trade all you want and if you want to communicate with others - go for it. If you don't want to communicate with others, just tell everyone who approaches you to take a hike Smile

Or just talk with your Colloidal Phasers. Smile

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Fri, 10 April 2020 01:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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platon79 wrote on Fri, 10 April 2020 05:46
Intriguing. I will consider joining.
One question though. I like your one winner, avoid helping others win, just help each other stopping the monster philosophy, but what about tech trading then? Is it allowed or not? If it is allowed, it would greatly help those seeking out early "alliances". And is it a com or no-com game?
I think I would prefer a non-com no tech trade game myself due to the less time involved, but then again I have not decided to join yet and all the other people have perhaps a lot of self isolating time on their hands and want to bring on the full diplomacy Wink


Diplomacy is permitted and encouraged (a no-communication game makes the monster's job easy Twisted Evil), including tech-trading. I just won't recognise multiple people as winning, so if your ally starts to become the monster you might want to ready those knives and sound out some alternative allies. Razz


[Updated on: Fri, 10 April 2020 01:57]

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Fri, 10 April 2020 16:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've now given it some more thought, and reached the decision that it is far too long since my last game. Count me in Thumbs Up

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Fri, 10 April 2020 17:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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That just jumped us to Large Sparse!

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Fri, 10 April 2020 18:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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OK, go for Large Normal

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Fri, 10 April 2020 19:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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XAPBob wrote on Thu, 09 April 2020 04:50
With 12 players declared we are looking at...

Quote:
5-6: Small Dense
7-8: Medium Sparse
9-10: Medium Normal
11-12: Medium Dense
13-14: Large Sparse
15-16: Large Normal


Medium dense.
The jump to Large Sparse is quite significant in terms of design.


Could there be a cutoff for new players, and then a few days to get a final design in? A design for dense might not work in a sparse. I would like to know the final size before I submit my final race (not that I have submitted yet... but I thought I was ready to...)

Raindancer

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Fri, 10 April 2020 23:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Raindancer wrote on Sat, 11 April 2020 09:13
XAPBob wrote on Thu, 09 April 2020 04:50
With 12 players declared we are looking at...

Quote:
5-6: Small Dense
7-8: Medium Sparse
9-10: Medium Normal
11-12: Medium Dense
13-14: Large Sparse
15-16: Large Normal


Medium dense.
The jump to Large Sparse is quite significant in terms of design.


Could there be a cutoff for new players, and then a few days to get a final design in? A design for dense might not work in a sparse. I would like to know the final size before I submit my final race (not that I have submitted yet... but I thought I was ready to...)

Raindancer

With players trickling in at the rate they are it's quite probable we'll be locked to Large Normal significantly before the 20th, but if not I'll allow a few more days to finalise races.

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Mon, 13 April 2020 05:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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magic9mushroom wrote on Sat, 11 April 2020 05:56

With players trickling in at the rate they are it's quite probable we'll be locked to Large Normal significantly before the 20th, but if not I'll allow a few more days to finalise races.


This whole "oh no my super-optimized race design is the wrong one for this universe!" problem is best avoided by having a generally good design that will do well in almost any map.

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Mon, 13 April 2020 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sparse to normal is only a 30% increase, but from Sparse to Dense is a 60% increase...

That's quite significant, particularly in terms of scanners, and early scouts, as well as refuelling point throughout the game.

Obviously we're now down the sparse/normal, which is a less major issue.


[Updated on: Mon, 13 April 2020 08:29]

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Mon, 13 April 2020 09:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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jscoble wrote on Mon, 13 April 2020 05:38
magic9mushroom wrote on Sat, 11 April 2020 05:56

With players trickling in at the rate they are it's quite probable we'll be locked to Large Normal significantly before the 20th, but if not I'll allow a few more days to finalise races.


This whole "oh no my super-optimized race design is the wrong one for this universe!" problem is best avoided by having a generally good design that will do well in almost any map.

Some people like the idea of playing around a theme. Not all themes work well in every universe. Sometimes they need to be scrapped, sometimes they can be modified. For myself the game is more around finding a fun theme that is also viable. Not everyone falls into the I-have-to-super-optimize-my-race-so-I-can-win category.
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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Tue, 14 April 2020 00:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Raindancer wrote on Mon, 13 April 2020 06:29
Not all themes work well in every universe.

Need to be careful with those. Some themes do significantly better when there are no other players involved Smile

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Tue, 14 April 2020 05:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Braindead wrote on Tue, 14 April 2020 14:25
Raindancer wrote on Mon, 13 April 2020 06:29
Not all themes work well in every universe.

Need to be careful with those. Some themes do significantly better when there are no other players involved Smile

And others, like that of the trickster, are quite useless without a victim. Laughing

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Tue, 14 April 2020 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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magic9mushroom wrote on Tue, 14 April 2020 02:04
And others, like that of the trickster, are quite useless without a victim. Laughing

Should be plenty of targets this game. My military officers are already salivating.

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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Thu, 16 April 2020 05:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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vmanuel (no race file)
Ludi Magister (no race file)
Abbadon (no race file)
Raindancer (no race file)
XAPBob (no race file)
jscoble (no race file)
Braindead (no race file)

Deadline for signups is April 20th.

I'm now going to set a deadline for race files as well, at April 25th. This is for the first-look; I won't apply it to revisions based on my advice.


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Re: Once More, Into the Breach (vanilla game) Sat, 18 April 2020 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'd like to get in on this action if I may.

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Such a good company gathered here that I just can't pass by. Count me too.

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