| DD6 Mine Damage Experiment |
Tue, 28 October 2014 21:11  |
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| neilhoward | 
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Registered: April 2008
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DD6 Players,
How did allowing mine damage allocation and mine damage dodge affect your game?
Did it make any difference during the early game?
How did it affect you SDs and SD fighters?
How do you feel about banning mine damage dodge now?
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| Re: DD6 Mine Damage Experiment |
Wed, 29 October 2014 08:23  |
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 Asmodai |
 | Officer Cadet 1st Year |
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Quote:How did allowing mine damage allocation and mine damage dodge affect your game? I can wrote for myself and my bro. Frankly, we did not used this bug - simply as it was unneccesary for our PRTs to waste even a single ship on minefields. Our enemies used it with some occasional success, but it was nubian horde that sweeped everything and breaked through our minefields, not combo of chaff+other.
Quote:Did it make any difference during the early game? It didnt. At least from our part. Since Cuspis/Spatha alliance used classic 5-sweeper fleets(at least as i remember), and our northern neigbours did not used advanced sweeping at all, we did not had any new experiences to share during early game period.
Quote:How did it affect you SDs and SD fighters? SD was able to replenish sweeped minefields quickly after sweepers were gone. Secondly, our enemies were not beginners, and were aware that detonating standard fields will handle chaff/sweeper combo easilly. I didnt noticed any significant number of chaff/single sweeper fleets, probably because of that fact. SD fighters....well, my bro did not had any fighters. Sweep/antisweep discussion is OT here 
Quote:How do you feel about banning mine damage dodge now? I think, that it should be banned. It is exploitation of ingame calculation of damage. Usefullness of this bug is entirely another matter.
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| Re: DD6 Mine Damage Experiment |
Wed, 29 October 2014 11:17 |
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| vmanuel |
 | Chief Warrant Officer 3 |
Messages: 187
Registered: October 2004
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On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Rolf Verberg wrote:
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> Could you post my reply, I tried again, but am unable to login to autohost 
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> I think it had minimal impact for us. I think overall, but
> particularly early on, the issue is most relevant to SD players. Our
> PRTs where IS/WM so I can only answer as an opponent. Not being SD, we
> really used minefield mostly defensive. It's simply to easy to prevent
> opposing non-SD minefields in a border zone. However, we were on the
> attack most of the game. So our own minefields and our opponents
> reaction to them didn't play a major role I think.
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> The Luciferians/Asmodaian were across from us at the start and we
> never pushed their presence in the center and they in return left us
> alone too. The Forsaken/Undead were North and we kinda established an
> early border that was initially relatively quiet too.
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> Early on, we decided to go South first and try for a "quiet" border in
> the North and Center. That worked well and we had little issues with
> minefields in the South. So no need to use/abuse the bug.
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> Then we noticed that the Forsaken/Undead were pushed fairly hard by
> the Trader/Hitchhikers and we decided we wanted a piece of the cake.
> We didn't have a "barrage" of minefields and pretty much dealt with it
> the normal way.
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> The Luciferians/Asmodaian were much more adapt/aggressive at using
> minefields, but by the time we faced them we simply used Nubs in
> larger numbers which made using the bug kinda irrelevant. We just took
> the hits and moved on.
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> We did use the bug occasionally. Since there was a discussion about it
> before the game start, we decided to leave the option open. We
> dedicated a slot, the number one slot, for chaff right from the start.
> I don't think we used it a lot though. That being said I kinda would
> prefer it to be banned. I think it's ok either way as long as it's
> clearly stated in the rules, but I still see it as using a loophole
> that clearly shouldn't be there. I think it can have an early impact
> especially for an SD player that plans using its PRT aggressively in
> the early game.
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> If a host is willing to patrol it and if there are clear rules about
> what's considered misuse, I would prefer a ban. I don't think this
> particular game changed my mind about it, I kinda had the same opinion
> before.
>
> Cheers, Rolf.
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