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Over the last year I have found a few new ways the game works, but have not gotten around to writing them up.

Anyone care to see if they can find them if I give some hints?

Re: Bug Hunting

Wed, 23 April 2014 03:19

magic9mushroom

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neilhoward wrote on Wed, 23 April 2014 14:43

Over the last year I have found a few new ways the game works, but have not gotten around to writing them up.

Anyone care to see if they can find them if I give some hints?

Well, I think you should 'fess up immediately, so we can update the Known Bugs section and decide on rules. Forcing the community to play games with you before you'll disclose details of undocumented cheats that you or others may already be using is dishonorable behaviour IMHO.

Re: Bug Hunting

Wed, 23 April 2014 04:11

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Simmer down. I never mentioned cheats, and nobody is forcing anybody to do anything. Your opinion is noted, but not very generous. Lets try to avoid name calling and disparaging remarks; there isn't much sense or call for it.

Re: Bug Hunting

Wed, 23 April 2014 04:15

XAPBob

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neilhoward wrote on Wed, 23 April 2014 09:11

Simmer down. I never mentioned cheats, and nobody is forcing anybody to do anything. Your opinion is noted, but not very generous. Lets try to avoid name calling and disparaging remarks; there isn't much sense or call for it.

Erm - you mentioned "new exploits"

Re: Bug Hunting

Wed, 23 April 2014 04:32

m.a@stars

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Start hintin'! Sherlock

So many Stars, so few Missiles!

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Re: Bug Hunting

Wed, 23 April 2014 06:35

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Neil,

wouldn't it be simpler if you simply stated what kind of help you need and what level of expertise, if any, is necessary?

Re: Bug Hunting

Wed, 23 April 2014 08:48

ccmaster

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Hi ,

it always depend what he has found out there. If it is out of the box you will not get it back in it, so if he first wants to think about how we all counld handle it to check the us of it its fine.

ccmaster

Re: Bug Hunting

Wed, 23 April 2014 12:23

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First an easy one. You wont activate it by mistake and you wont activate it on purpose. For some background see Bonus Research

Re: Bug Hunting

Wed, 23 April 2014 14:13

XAPBob

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Realloating resources? Get a tech by trade/wp0 invasion, make sure it's the trade you are researching - the research you had done on that field is allocated to your "next" field.

Re: Bug Hunting

Thu, 24 April 2014 18:23

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XAPBob wrote on Wed, 23 April 2014 11:13

Realloating resources? Get a tech by trade/wp0 invasion, make sure it's the trade you are researching - the research you had done on that field is allocated to your "next" field.

That is a useful trick and you are on the right track. How can you get more resources put into research though? It is not something that you can trigger tactically, but you might incorporate it into a whole-game strategy depending on the game parameters.

Re: Bug Hunting

Fri, 25 April 2014 09:52

Altruist

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neilhoward wrote on Fri, 25 April 2014 00:23

XAPBob wrote on Wed, 23 April 2014 11:13
Realloating resources? Get a tech by trade/wp0 invasion, make sure it's the trade you are researching - the research you had done on that field is allocated to your "next" field.
That is a useful trick and you are on the right track. How can you get more resources put into research though? It is not something that you can trigger tactically, but you might incorporate it into a whole-game strategy depending on the game parameters.

You wipe out the weak empires to get a lower divisor for your research allocation.

Vice versa: When playing vs. a super-stealth, you better NOT wipe out your enemy but keep at least 1 ship alive.

Re: Bug Hunting

Fri, 25 April 2014 14:58

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What can happen when there are two or more SS?

Re: Bug Hunting

Mon, 28 April 2014 17:30

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neilhoward wrote on Fri, 25 April 2014 13:58

What can happen when there are two or more SS?

Infinite recursion, resulting in stack overflow.

Or a timequake.

What we need's a few good taters.

Re: Bug Hunting

Mon, 28 April 2014 17:35

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neilhoward wrote on Thu, 24 April 2014 17:23

XAPBob wrote on Wed, 23 April 2014 11:13
Realloating resources? Get a tech by trade/wp0 invasion, make sure it's the trade you are researching - the research you had done on that field is allocated to your "next" field.
That is a useful trick and you are on the right track. How can you get more resources put into research though? It is not something that you can trigger tactically, but you might incorporate it into a whole-game strategy depending on the game parameters.

Play SS in a no-comms game.

What we need's a few good taters.

Re: Bug Hunting

Wed, 30 April 2014 15:53

ccmaster

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skoormit wrote on Mon, 28 April 2014 23:35

neilhoward wrote on Thu, 24 April 2014 17:23
XAPBob wrote on Wed, 23 April 2014 11:13
Realloating resources? Get a tech by trade/wp0 invasion, make sure it's the trade you are researching - the research you had done on that field is allocated to your "next" field.
That is a useful trick and you are on the right track. How can you get more resources put into research though? It is not something that you can trigger tactically, but you might incorporate it into a whole-game strategy depending on the game parameters.

Play SS in a no-comms game.

Really

And you want to know the bug now Smile

Ccmaster

Re: Bug Hunting

Thu, 01 May 2014 16:08

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ccmaster wrote on Wed, 30 April 2014 14:53

skoormit wrote on Mon, 28 April 2014 23:35
neilhoward wrote on Thu, 24 April 2014 17:23
XAPBob wrote on Wed, 23 April 2014 11:13
Realloating resources? Get a tech by trade/wp0 invasion, make sure it's the trade you are researching - the research you had done on that field is allocated to your "next" field.
That is a useful trick and you are on the right track. How can you get more resources put into research though? It is not something that you can trigger tactically, but you might incorporate it into a whole-game strategy depending on the game parameters.

Play SS in a no-comms game.

Really

And you want to know the bug now
Ccmaster

Well, yeah, I do. neilhoward asked how you can get more resources put into research. In no comms, players must research on their own since they cannot rely on tech trading with allies. That gives SS more of a research boost. I still don't know what the "bug" is.

What we need's a few good taters.

Re: Bug Hunting

Thu, 01 May 2014 18:19

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There is a scenario where an SS player will get more resources from espionage than indicated by the documented formula. That player has no way of controlling it though.

Re: Bug Hunting

Thu, 01 May 2014 19:49

nmid

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neilhoward wrote on Fri, 02 May 2014 03:49

There is a scenario where an SS player will get more resources from espionage than indicated by the documented formula. That player has no way of controlling it though.

Is that the bug you are hinting at in this series of Q*A?

Who else helped in discovering this bug?

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Re: Bug Hunting

Thu, 01 May 2014 23:12

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neilhoward wrote on Thu, 01 May 2014 17:19

There is a scenario where an SS player will get more resources from espionage than indicated by the documented formula. That player has no way of controlling it though.

If another player has GR?

What we need's a few good taters.