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Commander

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I am fine with any schedule.

I know my minefields.. but I'm a chaff sweeper.
I used to curse when I got stuck in traffic... till I realised I AM traffic.

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Mon, 28 April 2014 18:35

Master Chief Petty Officer

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For the time schedule I would be o.k. with daily except weekend, so 5 turns a week for the first 20 turns. After I would prefer to come down to 3 turns a week (M-M-F) and after turn 50 to twice a week ... Without allies and communication this should be o.k. Otherwise we would need more time for communication between the different time-zones.

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Tue, 29 April 2014 03:35

Asmodai

Officer Cadet 1st Year

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Quote:

For the time schedule I would be o.k. with daily except weekend, so 5 turns a week for the first 20 turns. After I would prefer to come down to 3 turns a week (M-M-F)

Agree. Quite good for me also.

Quote:

and after turn 50 to twice a week ...

In the game without comm, we end in early 50 with about 10-12k res. Such empire is not very mm demanding. I think, that sticking to 3 turns per week should be enforced as long as possible.

I think, that everyone should have right for one or two longer holds with setuped number of gens(2-3 max) - just in case of unexpected problems. As we will be not communicating with each other, and only with the host, such holds can prevent bickering about longer holds caused by players. I seened such solution in remorseless game, and it worked very well.

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Tue, 29 April 2014 05:22

XAPBob

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Asmodai wrote on Tue, 29 April 2014 08:35

In the game without comm, we end in early 50 with about 10-12k res. Such empire is not very mm demanding. I think, that sticking to 3 turns per week should be enforced as long as possible.

More than that can be achieved, much more, even in a real game.

Twisted Evil

(I just wish I had managed it Laughing

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[Updated on: Tue, 29 April 2014 05:24]

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Tue, 29 April 2014 09:22

Commander

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Guess I was wrong.. any schedule isn't fine with me Razz

While I understand what taka tuka is saying, I think he's overestimating the effort taken per turn in the later stages.
With no-comms or limited comms, 3 turns a week will still only take 1-3 hours at the most per turn.

Personally, I would not like the game to go below 3 turns a week.
That slows down the game and makes me lose interest/tempo in the game.
I'm fine with any spread of gen timings through the week, as long as it doesn't fall below 3 turns a week.

[Updated on: Tue, 29 April 2014 13:19]

I know my minefields.. but I'm a chaff sweeper.
I used to curse when I got stuck in traffic... till I realised I AM traffic.

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Tue, 29 April 2014 10:16

Warrant Officer

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i would also prefer a minimum of 3 per week
i would prefer a faster plan of 5-7 per week but i know that is less practical for most people

- Inquisitor80
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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Tue, 29 April 2014 17:27

Commander

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Ok, I made my perfect race.
When I checked the race limitations, D'oh...I forgot that the JOAT can't take OBRM AND/OR NAS.
(Btw, -140 points penalty o.0 ).

Then I made another completely different one.
When I checked the game limitations, D'oh... it had an immunity.

Now, I've read the entire 1st post.. I'm back to the drawing board.
(as if the 1st post was that long in the 1st place! /headslam).

Edit - Why is immunity banned though?
After I took away immunity, the amount of points I got to play with was quite substantial.
Any chance of allowing immunities? The amount of points it takes to take an immunity seems fair enough?

[Updated on: Tue, 29 April 2014 19:03]

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Wed, 30 April 2014 09:02

trader

Crewman 1st Class

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Location: Toronto

In the land of immunities, here be dragons. The concept of simple races excludes these fire breathing monsters. In a regular game, the townsfolk band together to attack the beasts, but with no communications, the tale has a quick and grisly end. Evil or Very Mad

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Wed, 30 April 2014 10:25

Commander

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I see a Merlin fan.

While immunities can be a really dangerous two-edged sword, I agree with your point that it can make a monster race if used right.
Even though the risk of immunities back firing is quite high and it's expensive to take... I had a day to try out new race designs and the pain of not using immunities sits better with me now Smile

I think we need to set an initial deadline which will be missed by a few players .. and then set a second deadline 1 week later for the final submissions. Only then will we be able to start off Wink

[Updated on: Wed, 30 April 2014 10:27]

I know my minefields.. but I'm a chaff sweeper.
I used to curse when I got stuck in traffic... till I realised I AM traffic.

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Wed, 30 April 2014 11:39

beanspoon

Chief Warrant Officer 3

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I can't remember if I already said, but I am fine with whatever schedule.

The goat whats YOU.

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Wed, 30 April 2014 13:21

Warrant Officer

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i haven't played other humans in the last 10 yrs
is there somebody not playing this round that can look at my race and see if i have at least something viable??
basic critique nothing super in depth if you don't have the time...

- Inquisitor80
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We must move forwards not backwards, upwards not forwards, and always twirling, twirling, twirling toward freedom.

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Wed, 30 April 2014 15:22

Altruist

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Inquisitor80 wrote on Wed, 30 April 2014 19:21

i haven't played other humans in the last 10 yrs
is there somebody not playing this round that can look at my race and see if i have at least something viable??
basic critique nothing super in depth if you don't have the time...

Send me a PM (click on my login-name) with your race and password attached and I'll have a look.

[Updated on: Wed, 30 April 2014 15:23]

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Thu, 01 May 2014 05:28

Master Chief Petty Officer

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Registered: March 2004
Location: Germany

Still no deadline for submitting race-files? The player-list is complete, isn't it? The decision about schedule should be possible now. There was enough time for comments, suggestions and wishes for all players. Imo the host should decide now. If there are any substancal reasons for change within one week, the host could change the schedule. As well all players could submit their race-files now and the host could start to check them. Wait for what now? Rolling Eyes

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Thu, 01 May 2014 16:05

skoormit

Lieutenant

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Location: Alabama

My apologies for leaving the thread untended for a few days. It does look like there has been fruiftul discussion. Let's tackle the issues:

Issue #1

Taka Tuka wants the game to be 5 days per week for the first 20 turns, 3 days a week from turns 21-50, then 2 days a week.

This pace is well below the pace specified in the game advert, which was: 26 hours per turn for at least the first 30 turns, after which, as soon as someone requests a slowdown, 50 hours per turn.

I very much want to give Taka Tuka a chance to play, but I can't change the proposed schedule this drastically unless *ALL* players agree to it.
Players, here are three schedule options. Please tell me which of these you are willing to play by:
a) 5 days per week for the first 20 turns, 3 days a week from turns 21-50, then 2 days a week
b) 5 days per week for the first 20 turns, then 3 days a week for the rest of the game
c) The originally posted schedule only

beanspoon has said he is okay with whatever. some of you have expressed a reluctance to go down to 2 days a week, so I infer that option b and c will work for you. The rest of you, please chime in below.

Issue #2
Nmid asks if we can allow immunities.

This discussion is very simple. The answer is no. In my opinion, that change would contradict the primary intent of the ruleset. Let's not debate it in this thread, though. Nmid, if you want to talk it out, start a new thread in the Bar. Or is there already a thread about this ruleset?

What we need's a few good taters.

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Thu, 01 May 2014 16:16

Commander

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Option B for me.
Just Spitballing about immunities. Its not an issue.

Can you decide an initial deadline for race submission?
That way the votes + race will come in at the same time.

I know my minefields.. but I'm a chaff sweeper.
I used to curse when I got stuck in traffic... till I realised I AM traffic.

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Thu, 01 May 2014 18:28

Master Chief Petty Officer

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Registered: March 2004
Location: Germany

Option B is fine for me Smile

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Thu, 01 May 2014 19:03

trader

Crewman 1st Class

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Registered: September 2012
Location: Toronto

Option B is fine, though I would request that we try to run through and force generation in the early years when it takes 2 minutes to do a turn. We should be able to do 10 years over a weekend easy.

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Thu, 01 May 2014 19:17

Warrant Officer

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B is good for me with one condition. I have an imminent death in the family. This will probably happen in the next few days. So when that happens I ask a little leeway with turns

- Inquisitor80
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We must move forwards not backwards, upwards not forwards, and always twirling, twirling, twirling toward freedom.

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Thu, 01 May 2014 19:50

Commander

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I'm fine with any holds due to real life issues.
Edit - I'm sorry for what you are going to go through.

[Updated on: Thu, 01 May 2014 19:51]

I know my minefields.. but I'm a chaff sweeper.
I used to curse when I got stuck in traffic... till I realised I AM traffic.

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Fri, 02 May 2014 01:41

CrazyBS

Petty Officer 1st Class

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Location: Portland, OR

I like Option B

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Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Sun, 04 May 2014 12:29

skoormit

Lieutenant

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Location: Alabama

Ten players have expressed interest in the game.

We have eight players ready to go and one extra player available should someone change their mind.

Player list:

ludek (added 2/14) (confirmed 4/16) (will require a modification to the proposed schedule; see below)
nmid (added 2/26) (confirmed 4/15) (will play comms OR no-comms)
Asmodai (added 3/7) (confirmed 4/15) (prefers no-comms; will play comms)
trader (added 4/13) (prefers no-comms; will play comms) (don't forget to email him; he doesn't check the forums often)
Taka Tuka (added 4/14) (will play comms OR no-comms)
CrazyBS (added 4/15)
beanspoon (added 4/15)
Inquisitor80 (added 4/21)

Waiting list / next game list:

theen (added 2/26) (only if game starts after ATSR2 ends) (will play comms AND no-comms)
dlrichert (added 4/21)

host for the next game: skoormit

Since there is more preference for no-comms, this game will be played without communication between players. No emails, no in-game messages, no ship design names like "I'll attack the Humanoids If You Do," no drawing arrows with your fleets on the map to point someone to a wormhole, etc. If you have any general questions about what counts as communication, please post here.

Schedule will be 5 days per week for the first 20 turns, then 3 days a week for the rest of the game.

Race deadline: May 12th 00:00 GMT

Email your race to me. (my forum name at gmail)
If your race has a password, include the password.
Mention your forum name so that I know who you are.

Note: I will be remapping the stars into a circle of the same planet density as a medium/dense universe. I will also move HWs so that all players have roughly equivalent positional advantages and disadvantages. This setup should avoid players being "stuck in a corner" or "stuck in the middle." I don't think this setup impacts race design.

What we need's a few good taters.

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Sun, 11 May 2014 16:03

Commander

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Hmm, almost forgot about the deadline.
Another 4 hours, so I'll submit one by then.

How many races have been submitted so far?

I know my minefields.. but I'm a chaff sweeper.
I used to curse when I got stuck in traffic... till I realised I AM traffic.

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Sun, 11 May 2014 19:09

Master Chief Petty Officer

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Location: Germany

I guess u are the last one - but not the least Wink

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Mon, 12 May 2014 00:08

Warrant Officer

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i was probably the last to submit
had a death in the family last week and couldn't testbed as much as i would have liked
cross fingers

i haven't played a human game in forever, how do i get my turns and submit them?

- Inquisitor80
___________________________________
We must move forwards not backwards, upwards not forwards, and always twirling, twirling, twirling toward freedom.

Re: All the Simple Races (...All the Simple Races)

Mon, 12 May 2014 03:36

Asmodai

Officer Cadet 1st Year

Messages: 214
Registered: February 2012

heh - i`m probably the last one;)
File sended.

What i won?

[Updated on: Mon, 12 May 2014 03:36]