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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Tue, 23 April 2013 11:43

XAPBob

Lt. Commander

Messages: 957
Registered: August 2012

Game (R)on...

No it wasn't yours Wink

I'll pull in the maps here in a moment...

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=bMB3ARxA

These are the 99 rejected maps (after the dozen I rejected by hand...)

[Updated on: Tue, 23 April 2013 11:48]

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Tue, 23 April 2013 12:20

nmid

Commander

Messages: 1608
Registered: January 2011
Location: GMT +5.5

if they were numbered, I could point out some really funny maps..

One that immediately comes to mind is where one HW is bang on the extreme corner of the universe.. lol.
Couple of other maps where everyone is on the far left, with not a single HW on the right..

Automating the genning of balanced starting positions, is going to be really helpful Smile

.

Edit - These were at "distant positions" setting?

[Updated on: Tue, 23 April 2013 12:23]

I know my minefields.. but I'm a chaff sweeper.
I used to curse when I got stuck in traffic... till I realised I AM traffic.

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Tue, 23 April 2013 12:41

gjarvie

Crewman 2nd Class

Messages: 16
Registered: April 2012

Thanks and thanks for the pm nmid, it seems to be working. I guess it's only the unread counter that I've broken.

[Updated on: Tue, 23 April 2013 12:41]

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Tue, 23 April 2013 12:43

XAPBob

Lt. Commander

Messages: 957
Registered: August 2012

whatever was set in the .def template I was given by skoormit.

I.e. whatever is upthread.

I did have them numbered, I'll push another one later, maybe...

But yes - completely automated, then I just paged through the maps to pick one that looked OK.

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Tue, 23 April 2013 18:30

skoormit

Lieutenant

Messages: 665
Registered: July 2008
Location: Alabama

nmid wrote on Tue, 23 April 2013 11:20

if they were numbered, I could point out some really funny maps...

...

Edit - These were at "distant positions" setting?

My favorite is the one with 14 HW. (obviously had plenty of substring matches in that one)

No, these were with "moderate" positions, per the game advert.

There are several that aren't terrible, but they lack the symmetry I think we all equate with equitable starting positions.

What we need's a few good taters.

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Wed, 24 April 2013 07:09

XAPBob

Lt. Commander

Messages: 957
Registered: August 2012

Yep - there were some substring match errors, but it was fairly easy to see whether there was a "possible" match in the picture, and then check the "HW" file (which was better than the gid)

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Wed, 24 April 2013 17:55

skoormit

Lieutenant

Messages: 665
Registered: July 2008
Location: Alabama

Game is live on AutoHost.

First turn is in for all players.

Second year .m file mailed out to all players. If you do not have your .m file for 2401, let me know.

Remember: NO COMMUNICATION ALLOWED BETWEEN PLAYERS.

Have fun everyone!

What we need's a few good taters.

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Thu, 25 April 2013 18:29

Altruist

Commander

Messages: 1068
Registered: August 2005
Location: Berlin

XAPBob wrote on Tue, 23 April 2013 17:43

I'll pull in the maps here in a moment...

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=bMB3ARxA

These are the 99 rejected maps (after the dozen I rejected by hand...)

Mmmh, quite unusual: on most maps the HWs crowd together while leaving free vast areas of the universe.

I think the reason is the setting for player positions: moderate.
With moderate the minimum distance between the HWs isn't big enough and thus they start to crowd.

That's probably the reason why most hosts use the distant setting (or farther for duels).

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Fri, 26 April 2013 01:41

Vostromo

Petty Officer 1st Class

Messages: 68
Registered: June 2010

Why is the game on hold?

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Fri, 26 April 2013 02:01

Tomasoid

Chief Warrant Officer 3

Messages: 182
Registered: December 2005
Location: Ukraine

I guess because gjarvie did not submit turn. I think we should not put game on hold in such case that early and force turn gen. It is possible even to gen 3-5 turns with no much harm to gameplay at this stage.

WBR, Vlad

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Fri, 26 April 2013 10:10

skoormit

Lieutenant

Messages: 665
Registered: July 2008
Location: Alabama

Vostromo wrote on Fri, 26 April 2013 00:41

Why is the game on hold?

I sent an email directly to all players when I put the game on hold. If you did not get that email, we need to figure out why.

What we need's a few good taters.

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Fri, 26 April 2013 10:34

gjarvie

Crewman 2nd Class

Messages: 16
Registered: April 2012

Yes, it was because of me. I'm am extremely sorry for the delay this early on, I was on a 12 hour shift yesterday and I either missed or didn't get my turn emailed, I might have broken that along with private messaging and when I checked the game page (it's always open in a tab) I forgot that I had my browser cache set to don't check for page updates unless 24 hours have passed so it was out of date. I am usually a very reliable player and don't do 12 hour shifts that often so this will be a one off. Please don't hold the game on my account if it does, it's my own fault if I miss a turn.

Again sorry for the delay.

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Fri, 26 April 2013 10:44

trader

Crewman 1st Class

Messages: 21
Registered: September 2012
Location: Toronto

Agree with Vlad, don't know about you guys, but I don't have anything to do the first few turns anyway except hit submit. It would be nice if we could bang out the first half dozen turns this weekend so that we have some real action next week.

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Fri, 26 April 2013 11:33

skoormit

Lieutenant

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Registered: July 2008
Location: Alabama

trader wrote on Fri, 26 April 2013 09:44

Agree with Vlad, don't know about you guys, but I don't have anything to do the first few turns anyway except hit submit. It would be nice if we could bang out the first half dozen turns this weekend so that we have some real action next week.

I would very much hate for someone to miss an early turn because of a communications problem. Now that everyone has submitted successfully, hopefully all the communication wrinkles have been ironed. From now on, I expect that all players are getting their turn emails and will get them in on time.

2402 has genned. You should all have your turn via email.

If 2403 gens without a problem, I won't hold the game again except by specific request (with plenty of advance notice, please, if possible).

What we need's a few good taters.

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Thu, 02 May 2013 18:46

trader

Crewman 1st Class

Messages: 21
Registered: September 2012
Location: Toronto

Great pace guys. It's amazing how much quicker everything is without taking into consideration any diplo.

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Fri, 17 May 2013 02:50

Tomasoid

Chief Warrant Officer 3

Messages: 182
Registered: December 2005
Location: Ukraine

Hi!

Guys, looks like my turn file was corrupted or bad turn submit. Apologize for that. Is there any chance to roll back by one turn?

WBR, Vlad

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Fri, 17 May 2013 10:31

dlrichert

Chief Warrant Officer 1

Messages: 136
Registered: January 2012
Location: US

The game is on hold so something is being considered. IMHO everyone should make sure their turn is accepted. In this case it showed up as not submitted a few minutes before gen and skipped after turn generation. Therefore if a player checked they would see this an then could resubmit another file. There are too many impacts to other players to justify a regen. This of course is just my opinion.

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Fri, 17 May 2013 12:14

Tomasoid

Chief Warrant Officer 3

Messages: 182
Registered: December 2005
Location: Ukraine

Well, I only somewhat ok with no regen, though not critical. Let's continue then. You are right, there is much more to affect if regen than just my missed refuelings...

WBR, Vlad

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Sun, 19 May 2013 14:00

skoormit

Lieutenant

Messages: 665
Registered: July 2008
Location: Alabama

Game was on hold because I was traveling. I emailed all players about this prior to the turn generating.

Tomasoid emailed me asking about the possibility of a regen. I have replied to that email, asking for details, but it seems he later posted here that he was okay with no regen, and I see his turn is submitted.

I will be submitting my turn in the next few hours (if I can get my family to go home...).

The Fricken are the only other race with a turn not yet submitted. I will not force gen when I upload my turn since the timing of the hold was uncertain.

So, thank you all for your patience (and for an ongoing great pace of play). We should shortly be resuming our normal schedule.

What we need's a few good taters.

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Re: New Game: No Monsters Allowed

Sat, 15 June 2013 11:55

Ashlyn

Lt. Commander

Messages: 834
Registered: November 2002
Location: Pueblo CO USA

enjoy your game

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