Depends on what we really want here - slow game - AccBBs off/large/normal,Wexp/slow tech. That should be reall sluggish game:)
If we want some more rapid game - AccBBs on/ normal tech(except W-expensive)

I`m also vote for some large uni. Nubians will show up - even with slow tech.

Hmm, you don't sound like a beginner to me...

All of that sort of stuff is easily picked up from hanging around here.

Bob wrote on Mon, 01 October 2012 03:10]Probably interested. Depends what happens with the other beginner game announcement at the moment...

Bob wrote on Tue, 02 October 2012 08:39]
Split fleet/chaff/heal after gate all allowed?

Is that split fleet dodge or split fleet minimum damage?

magic9mushroom wrote on Tue, 02 October 2012 03:27

Is that split fleet dodge or split fleet minimum damage?

I believe he meant the former.

Anyway, if the ruleset looks like this, the game will be a very slow starter, will heavily favour HP-type races, and will basically force the players to adopt one particular playing style.

I don't quite know how this relates to a "beginner" setting... but I am open to convincing explanations.

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Bob wrote on Tue, 02 October 2012 08:39]
Split fleet/chaff/heal after gate all allowed?

Is that split fleet dodge or split fleet minimum damage?

Bob wrote on Tue, 02 October 2012 19:45]Do you mean the fire thousands of tiny torpedoes and kill anything - I've not seen it referred to as "split fleet" before.

With Nubians always being expensive battle cruisers would be a significant advantage. I'd have thought that W expensive, slow tech and no AccBBS would have been enough, whilst still allowing high end tech.

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Bob wrote on Tue, 02 October 2012 19:45]Do you mean the fire thousands of tiny torpedoes and kill anything - I've not seen it referred to as "split fleet" before.

Well, it does rely on splitting fleets. There was also a long discussion about it in the last Stone Age Slaughter thread.

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With Nubians always being expensive battle cruisers would be a significant advantage. I'd have thought that W expensive, slow tech and no AccBBS would have been enough, whilst still allowing high end tech.

Don't you mean dreadnaughts?

With Nubians always being expensive battle cruisers would be a significant advantage. I'd have thought that W expensive, slow tech and no AccBBS would have been enough, whilst still allowing high end tech.

Eh, HP gets crushed by HG in an AccBBS game. This is more of a level playing field than any real "advantage". Also, BET means that Nubians are double-price, which is a pain for the HP tech-lovers.

Eh, HP gets crushed by HG in an AccBBS game.

This is more of a level playing field than any real "advantage".

Also, BET means that Nubians are double-price, which is a pain for the HP tech-lovers.

And HP aren't the most advantaged by that setup anyway.

Oh, and regarding the "beginner" thing, non-AccBBS does give a bit more breathing room to scout and such, while disadvantaging the -f rush tactics that can leave one rapidly ruined.

Input from:
paulorton
loucipher

Or for anyone else, for that matter IMHO, BET does one significant thing - slows the use of advanced designs somewhat (you have to outrun the requirements to avoid paying double price) and discourages use of top-drawer technology overall (for the same reason, plus the 26-level ones will always be double-price). It could also help those with mineral/resource crunch (due to better miniaturization), but the effect is IMHO too small to be of importance.

This one I'd like to see elaborated on.

This is another thing I can only agree with. Moreover, I'd generally say it helps those who rely on developing by Production Capacity, and not on Sheer Numbers of People.