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Back to Basics Sat, 21 April 2012 12:02 Go to next message
LaserBeard is currently offline LaserBeard

 
Crewman 1st Class

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Registered: April 2012
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So I've played on SAH before many years ago, and have always loved Stars! I've been lurking the forum hoping for a new game to join for some time now, but nothing has come up. So, presenting 'Back to Basics':

6 players
-Medium / Normal / Distant
-Acc BBS
-Slower Tech

CA Banned, JoaT can't take NAS

Single Winner determined by vote ( majority rules, "no clear winner - keep playing" as an option )

Regular cheat disclaimer, Chaff okay as well as split-fleet dodge and the healing after gating.

As for generation, I'd like to do either M-T-W-R-F or every 32 hours, and then slow down upon request, but am open to changing that if necessary - input?

That's it, simple game, for for me (personally) to get back into Stars! I've never hosted before so hopefully you can all bear with me if there are any kinks.

Current Players:

1. LaserBeard (race file ready)
2. gjarvie (race file received)
3. nmid (race file received)
4. LittleEddie (race file received)
5. ssampson88
6. aprahanti (race file received)

Edit: We seem to have all our players, so get those passworded racefiles to BeeKeepr - rjohnlaidler "at" btinternet.com along with your forum name and race password for checking. Other interested players can be used as standbys in case someone doesn't come through.


[Updated on: Thu, 26 April 2012 09:28]

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Re: Back to Basics Sat, 21 April 2012 12:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BeeKeeper is currently offline BeeKeeper

 
Officer Cadet 1st Year

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I am already in 2 games so can't join but if I was I would advise against public player scores. I have only played in one game with PPS and because we could see after a while one or two players were far outstripping the rest of us the enthusiasm to keep playing on began to wane.

The underdogs might have grouped together to take them on but it didn't happen and the game sort of fizzled out. About half the players kept going in a rather desultory fashion for a few turns but it was eventually won by the players left behind after the rest of us picked up our toys and walked off into the sunset.

Not having PPS will not stop you seeing you are 5th or 6th but at least it doesn't show how far behind you might be and there is always hope you can do better!

A single winner will also make alliances harder to form and hold as each side will always wonder when the other partner is going to turn on them. Unless of course you want it to be a single player game with no alliances - which you can achieve if you say every other player has to be set to enemy.


[Updated on: Sat, 21 April 2012 12:29]

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Re: Back to Basics Sat, 21 April 2012 12:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaserBeard is currently offline LaserBeard

 
Crewman 1st Class

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Okay, thanks for the feedback. I'm not set on PPS so if those who are interested in playing don't want it I'd be fine to have it off.

I don't want to remove diplomacy from the game. For the games I've played, alliances / NAPs / etc have had a X year warning to breaking the agreement which I think is fine in this scenario and makes for an interesting game, otherwise a universe of 3 teams of 2 for most of game might be a little dull.

Again, TBH I'm just trying to get in a game and am not overly picky about the parameters, I figured this was a solid vanilla scenario that wouldn't be too hard to get players for.


[Updated on: Sat, 21 April 2012 12:45]

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Re: Back to Basics Mon, 23 April 2012 00:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aprahanti is currently offline aprahanti

 
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I'd like to play. Haven't played in about 7 years, so it will take a while to get up to speed and create a race (maybe a week or so)

David

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Re: Back to Basics Mon, 23 April 2012 05:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gjarvie is currently offline gjarvie

 
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I'd like to sign up as well please, I've not played for years either.

Gavin

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Re: Back to Basics Mon, 23 April 2012 06:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nmid

 
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I love new players coming in, but somehow they never stick around too long once the game finishes.

If the schedule is going to be a fast one, I'll be interested in fielding a race.

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Re: Back to Basics Mon, 23 April 2012 06:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gjarvie is currently offline gjarvie

 
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I haven't played in a few years as I haven't had a decent internet connection and couldn't guarantee that I'd be a reliable player. Now that I do I'm going to try to keep at least one game on the go, so I intend sticking around at least. That could be a bad thing though, you might regret saying that.

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Re: Back to Basics Mon, 23 April 2012 08:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaserBeard is currently offline LaserBeard

 
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Updated OP to reflect interested players.

Great that we're getting some people, looks like it will be a battle of the rusty old-timers! Only two slots left if everyone who's expressed interest is committed to playing.

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Re: Back to Basics Mon, 23 April 2012 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LittleEddie is currently offline LittleEddie

 
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I'll like to play also

Little Eddie

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Re: Back to Basics Mon, 23 April 2012 15:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaserBeard is currently offline LaserBeard

 
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Great, one spot left!

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Re: Back to Basics Mon, 23 April 2012 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ssampson88 is currently offline ssampson88

 
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Count me in as well, please.

-Scott

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Re: Back to Basics Mon, 23 April 2012 18:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaserBeard is currently offline LaserBeard

 
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Great, we seem to have all our players, so get those passworded racefiles to me: ksmith3921 (at) gmail (dot) com along with your forum name.

Anyone else interested can be put as standbys, but hopefully that won't be needed!

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Re: Back to Basics Mon, 23 April 2012 23:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
aprahanti is currently offline aprahanti

 
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It is probably going to be about 24 hours before I can be ready to play, so if this would be too long a wait, you can sub someone in for me.

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Re: Back to Basics Tue, 24 April 2012 07:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaserBeard is currently offline LaserBeard

 
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That's no problem, I've only gotten one race file so far (plus mine is ready). I'll be happy if we've got everything together by the end of the week.

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Re: Back to Basics Tue, 24 April 2012 10:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
BeeKeeper is currently offline BeeKeeper

 
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LaserB - Do you want a 3rd party to check the race files - i.e. for JOATs not taking NAS? I could also set up the universe if you wanted to. It is very common for hosts to play in their own games but a 3rd party normally checks out the race files and generates the universe - otherwise the host will know everything about the other players and (not suggesting you would!) could keep regenning the game until they got a high mineral well positioned HW and everyone else was on rock.

I did this for SAS6 recently, could do the same for your game. e-mail: rjohnlaidler "at" btinternet.com

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Re: Back to Basics Tue, 24 April 2012 10:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaserBeard is currently offline LaserBeard

 
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Yeah I figured since the rules are simple and I'd like to think that people here are honorable, that we wouldn't need a 3rd party check - I don't have the passwords for the racefiles so I can't look myself. If you're willing that would be great, as well as generating the universe.

There goes my elaborate plan to be a NAS JoaT with 100% concentrations, haha.

So everyone email rjohnlaidler "at" btinternet.com instead with racefile and password (right?) so he can check.

Because you'd be genning the universe I won't need the player's race files at all, correct? You'll send everything to me so I can pass it on to Ron, or would you send it to him directly (I guess because I could re-gen myself?)

Thanks.


[Updated on: Tue, 24 April 2012 10:25]

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Re: Back to Basics Tue, 24 April 2012 10:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nmid

 
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Yea, everything would go to him and he will then email the entire set of files to Ron directly.

I'll send my race file over the weekend and try finding a dual player for my race at the same time Razz.
I know for a fact that I will not be able to play for 3 weeks in May-June, as I'm travelling to the UK, so going to start the game with a dual player race.



I know my minefields.. but I'm a chaff sweeper.
I used to curse when I got stuck in traffic... till I realised I AM traffic.

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Re: Back to Basics Tue, 24 April 2012 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not to stir the pot at the last minute, but are you dead set on including random events?
I'm fine either way, just have played in a few games that were (IMO) ruined by the MT and since you hadn't mentioned it either way, I thought I'd ask...

-Scott

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Re: Back to Basics Tue, 24 April 2012 14:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LaserBeard is currently offline LaserBeard

 
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@nmid - Great, thanks for letting us know.

@ssampson88 - I'm not set on random events, if some other people would like them off (or are indifferent) then we can do that.

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LittleEddie is currently offline LittleEddie

 
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I could go with no Random events

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Re: Back to Basics Tue, 24 April 2012 14:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nmid

 
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no WHs either, huh?
Increases the value of the IT race...

We could set a no-catch-MT rule with all of us sending chaff/armed ships to check if anyone does try to catch the MT Wink




I know my minefields.. but I'm a chaff sweeper.
I used to curse when I got stuck in traffic... till I realised I AM traffic.

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Re: Back to Basics Tue, 24 April 2012 15:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
LittleEddie is currently offline LittleEddie

 
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Worm Holes are not a random event

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Re: Back to Basics Tue, 24 April 2012 15:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
nmid

 
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they aren't?

I thought they were...

I just rechecked, the wiki says they aren't either.
http://wiki.starsautohost.org/wiki/Random_Events

Quote:


Below the list of Random Events:
MT visit
comet strike : A large comet has crashed into (xxx) bringing a wide variety of new minerals and drastically altering the planet's environment.
Planets can get hit by a comet. Those come unannounced and kill pop on the surface. Defenses or a mass drivers are not taken into account. A comet randomly leaves an amount of minerals on the surface and randomly increases mineral concentrations. The amount of pop killed increases with the size of the comet. There are 3 sizes: small (leaves one minerals, increases one concentrations), large (leaves two mineral, increases two concentration) and huge (leaves all three minerals, increases all concentrations).
planetary change : Fundamental changes in the environment of (yyy) have permanently altered the planet's Temperature. This change has canceled all planetary production.
Sudden changes in the hab settings of a planet, independent of the habs of the inhabiting race
suddenly discovered mineral storages : your people discover a hidden supply in one type of mineral, with as result that the concentration is increased
colonization bonus : when you colonize a planet you have a chance to discover artifacts. Those artifacts contribute a small amount of resources (100-200?) to one of the tech fields. You do however need to bring a minimun (1000?) of pop and the planet cannot be colonized before. Colonizing more planets in one year increases the chance to discover artifacts. (true?)
note: checking No Random Events (NRE) when creating a game will turn all these off



Well, that simplifies matter.
I'm neutral.



I know my minefields.. but I'm a chaff sweeper.
I used to curse when I got stuck in traffic... till I realised I AM traffic.

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Re: Back to Basics Wed, 25 April 2012 07:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gjarvie is currently offline gjarvie

 
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No MT is fine with me. I'm happy with either.

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LaserBeard is currently offline LaserBeard

 
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Okay, I think we'll gen with no random events and no PPS.

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