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Dark times lie ahead my friends Sat, 30 May 2009 19:55 Go to next message
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Greetings to the free races of this galaxy from the Ellurid,

While the Ellurid have had dealings with each of you at one time or another both friendly and hostile to one degree or another I feel it is my solemn duty to give warning of a impending doom that threatens all of us to the point where as to survive we MUST transcend our differences and lay siege to the growing shadow. Indeed all may already be lost for the fearsome technology that the Bugs-Vedin have displayed in the series of defeats the Ellurid have suffered in our crusade to stem the rising tide. Despite some Intel the Ellurid received that the newly formed Bug-Vedin-Lacon alliance had decided to annex a great deal of Rancor territory the Vedin-Bugs have not set a single ship against the Rancor and are in fact using the Rancor to occupy the noble Formax-Lurker just as they have used the Lacon to justify a war with myself and the Sofians. A war started by the Lacons constant and aggressive violations of border agreements. While the ships lost were getting on in years the encounter with Bug battleships equipped with Gorilla delagator shields and Muti Function Pods while detecting space stations armed with Rho torpedoes is sobering and each year the Ellurid intelligence command bring me troubling reports of vast amounts of resources invested into weapons, construction and energy tech even now. All Ellurid offensive operations have been put on hold as of now. Indeed we may not even be able to defend ourselves for long standing alone in the face of such technological power. Our only hope is to rally; the remaining free races must meet this threat for all of our fates depend upon it. We all must fight now or be exterminated two at a time.

-First Citizen of the Ellurid


[Updated on: Sat, 30 May 2009 19:57]




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Re: Dark times lie ahead my friends Sat, 30 May 2009 22:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Discrimination and persecution against Bugs. We see it again and again, starting in Starship Troopers, then Ender's Game, and in Men in Black. And dozens of other examples.

Why must all the races of the universe insist that Bugs are always out for universal domination and destruction? Is it the fault of Hollywood and/or the press?

The only race that the Bugs have attacked were the Lacon, whom we have since befriended.

The First Citizen of the Ellurid seems to have forgotten to mention that the loss of their two fleets happened over Lacon planets, and that the Bugs were defending their ally. It can also be noted that the Bugs previously sent a message to the Ellurids (and Sofians) offering to mediate peace between the Lacon and Ellurid races. That message was never answered. Instead parts of that message were used to incite further discrimination and persecution against Bugs with the other two alliances.

The Bugs admit that we have been very lenient with the -Rancor-. They wanted time to avenge the loss of many planets to the aggressive Lurkers and Eagles, and rather than destroy them, we granted them time. What other races do not seem to realize is that this is not without cost to -Rancor-. In recent years at least 4 planets have been given up to the Bug/Vedin/Lacon alliance. Is bloodless conquest so terrible?

Of course the Bugs are doing research. It seems to us that most of the races have recently ceased production of warships, and are likely doing more research. Why should this implicate the Bugs in a plot for universal domination?

Yours in Peace,
The Big Bug

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Re: Dark times lie ahead my friends Sun, 31 May 2009 23:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eagle of Fire

 
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Big Bugs seems to forget that we, Fornaxians, are not the agressors in this holy war we declared against the treaterous -Rancorian- people. And now, you dare to point your accusating finger toward Fornaxians, saying that we are agressive?

Years after years, we watched the Bugs/Vedin, and now Bugs/Vedin/Alpheus Lacon alliance protect and help the -Rancorian- people. Even now, you are protecting them by requesting border agreements preventing us from pursuing -Rancor- targets which are now deep within your own territory (proven by sending scouts in the new wormhole) and also by extending double minefields around nearby -Rancor- planets to slow us down. At the same time, you pass secret agreements with them to "grab" their planets one by one, purposedly preventing us from getting the spoils of a war you did not wage. Did you really expect us to not notice -Rancor- evacuating their planets, leaving only a handfull of colons, to be crushed by your troops immediately after?

Allow us to be blunt to the Big Bug: sheltering criminals in your territory and providing for them so they can be used as mercenaries against us have not gone unnoticed. And this certainly is not playing in your favor when asking for blind faith.

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Re: Dark times lie ahead my friends Mon, 01 June 2009 16:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Big Bugs seems to forget that we, Fornaxians, are not the agressors in this holy war we declared against the treaterous -Rancorian- people.


This Bug does indeed not know the ancient origins of the conflict, but surmises that -Rancor- history books will blame it on the Lurkers, and that Lurker and Eagle history books will blame it on the -Rancor-.

Holy War: A war declared or fought for a religious or high moral purpose, as to extend or defend a religion.

Given your own statement, is this really about who started it? or it is just an excuse for expansionism?

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And now, you dare to point your accusating finger toward Fornaxians, saying that we are agressive?


The statement has nothing to do with the start of the war, but recent actions. The Lurkers and Eagles are sending armed ships into areas past planets owned by the Joat alliance. That this is deemed acceptable, and that the Eagles and Lurkers seem to think that they have the right to move beyond our planets, and in fact seems to think that they have the right to own -Rancor- occupied planets (in our space) is definitely indicative of a 'moral holy war' ignoring the opinions of anyone but themselves. Yes, the Bugs consider this to be highly aggressive.

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Years after years, we watched the Bugs/Vedin, and now Bugs/Vedin/Alpheus Lacon alliance protect and help the -Rancorian- people. Even now, you are protecting them by requesting border agreements preventing us from pursuing -Rancor- targets which are now deep within your own territory (proven by sending scouts in the new wormhole) and also by extending double minefields around nearby -Rancor- planets to slow us down. At the same time, you pass secret agreements with them to "grab" their planets one by one, purposedly preventing us from getting the spoils of a war you did not wage. Did you really expect us to not notice -Rancor- evacuating their planets, leaving only a handfull of colons, to be crushed by your troops immediately after?


So first you were upset that we were sheltering the -Rancor- not fighting them like we were supposed to. Now you are upset that we are talking -Rancor- planets. Can you make up your mind?

Or are you really just upset that we are taking -Rancor- planets in a way smarter and easier than you are?

And maybe the fact that all our minefields originate at planets in our alliance should say something about who owns the space?

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Allow us to be blunt to the Big Bug: sheltering criminals in your territory and providing for them so they can be used as mercenaries against us have not gone unnoticed. And this certainly is not playing in your favor when asking for blind faith.


Criminals? The Bugs would be happy to mediate a cease-fire while you convene a universal council for a trial of the -Rancor- (if you can find any neutral jurors) on whatever crimes you say they have committed.

Or is that not the way a Holy War works? You just get to do whatever you want because you have moral superiority over the oppressed -Rancor- race?

The (Contemplative) Big Bug

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Re: Dark times lie ahead my friends Mon, 01 June 2009 19:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eagle of Fire

 
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This Bug does indeed not know the ancient origins of the conflict, but surmises that -Rancor- history books will blame it on the Lurkers, and that Lurker and Eagle history books will blame it on the -Rancor-.

Holy War: A war declared or fought for a religious or high moral purpose, as to extend or defend a religion.

Given your own statement, is this really about who started it? or it is just an excuse for expansionism?

-Rancor- planets are highly incompatible with the needs of Fornaxians for settlement. Even the single planet we took in the last push won't be viable for the Fornaxians before several years and great terraforming efforts. Fornaxian colons also do not believe in religions. We thus repulse your fimble accusations with the back of our wing.

You are however right to say that this Holy War follow a high moral purpose. We declared an Holy War against the -Rancorian- people because they not only dared but also managed to break the original NAP collectively signed by all the races of this universe in the year 2400... And got away with it. The attack on our defenseless scout at the border of -Rancor- territory won't be forgotten easily, if at all. -Rancor- brought retribution upon themselves, and so far we took great care into respecting other races which were victim of the circumstances, like the Alpheus Lacon. To whom we should have declared war immidiately because they were allied with the treacherous -Rancorian- people at the time. But we didn't, and by purpose.

This alone should speak way louder than words.

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The statement has nothing to do with the start of the war, but recent actions. The Lurkers and Eagles are sending armed ships into areas past planets owned by the Joat alliance. That this is deemed acceptable, and that the Eagles and Lurkers seem to think that they have the right to move beyond our planets, and in fact seems to think that they have the right to own -Rancor- occupied planets (in our space) is definitely indicative of a 'moral holy war' ignoring the opinions of anyone but themselves. Yes, the Bugs consider this to be highly aggressive.

This whole statement is frankly ridiculous. You are obviously trying to confuse everybody else into oblivion. Not only do Fornaxians take great pride never to sent armed ships beyond anybody borders, but we even suffered the cold shoulder treatement from Alpheus Lacon who sent countless armed FFs in all their neighbors space, supposedly on a survey mission of some sort.

You should really get your facts straight before accusing other alliances of doing what your own did ages ago.
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So first you were upset that we were sheltering the -Rancor- not fighting them like we were supposed to. Now you are upset that we are talking -Rancor- planets. Can you make up your mind?

Or are you really just upset that we are taking -Rancor- planets in a way smarter and easier than you are?

And maybe the fact that all our minefields originate at planets in our alliance should say something about who owns the space?

Your weak masquarade is not fooling any of us, Big Bug. You don't "peacefully take planets", you are rather signing deals with your mercenaries to make sure that your position is not compromised. It is really easy to see that the evacuation and the conquest of the aforementionned planets are carefully planned and synchronized. Only a fool or someone who have his vision shadowed by your masquerade would believe the contrary.

And your poor excuse about the ownership of the space make Fornaxians colons laugh. If you really wish to lay claim on that part of the galaxy, then prepare your ships and take it instead of allowing -Rancor- to bombard our recently conquered planets with those new and shiny slingers they just conveniently got their hands on in the last year or two.

Of course, in their weakened state, one have to wonder where they could have found the time to actually research the required technology for such an advanced stage of their energy arsenal... Which leave only a small step left before one is to wonder what exactly the Bugs were exchanging with their mercenaries in return of their support.

Fortunately for you, and unlike others, Fornaxians do not accuse others without solid proof.
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Criminals? The Bugs would be happy to mediate a cease-fire while you convene a universal council for a trial of the -Rancor- (if you can find any neutral jurors) on whatever crimes you say they have committed.

Or is that not the way a Holy War works? You just get to do whatever you want because you have moral superiority over the oppressed -Rancor- race?

We, Fornaxians, have no doubt that you would be happy to organize such a mediation, considering the amount of planets you grabbed from the -Rancorians- without having to fight for them, and also considering that you would most likely claim a lot more of them, blaming self defense, while the trial take place. After all, -Rancor- newer colonies are far, far inside the new JoaT alliance, and we know for a fact that the -Rancorian- people are very agressive in nature and are going to do whatever possible to get stronger again. Which mean attacking those near them. Again, we are not fooled easily.

As for the treacherous -Rancorian- people, Fornaxians already decided decades ago that they were clueless on the art of diplomacy and, coupled with their actions, are not to be trusted again. We have no intent to reconsider this without a very sensible reason.

Anybody who shelter them willingly are to be considered with suspicious eyes. Big Bug right now not only shelter them wilingly, but allow them to do their own dirty deeds with a simulacre of innocence.

We are and will be watching you very carefully.



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Re: Dark times lie ahead my friends Mon, 01 June 2009 23:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
neilhoward

 
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Apologies to visiting seismologists. What your instruments recently recorded was not a geological phenomena, but rather fourteen million Alpheidae rolling on the ground laughing. ROFLMAO
Ellurid Paranoia


...the fearsome technology that the Bugs-Vedin have displayed in the series of defeats the Ellurid have suffered...


lol. You lost 24 BBs at Hoe to a stack of torp DDs and a reserve of sapper only CCs, because you have foolish ship designs and wonky battle orders. Nana nana bubu
Ellurid Fallacy of Necessity


...the Vedin-Bugs have not set a single ship against the Rancor and are in fact using the Rancor to occupy the noble Formax[sic]-Lurker...


IIRC this year will see a sixth Rancor planet annexed by Lacon. Angel
Ellurid Propaganda


...just as they have used the Lacon to justify a war with myself and the Sofians.


The Bug Confederation has thus far only defended Lacon worlds under attack by Ellurid. WTH

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Dark Lies Mon, 01 June 2009 23:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wow. Apparently now you are under the impression that you can make up for a poorly managed economy by exporting fertilizer.

I notice you have redacted your statement claiming to end hostilities. Cool

Another outright fabrication by Ellurid!


A war started by the Lacons constant and aggressive violations of border agreements.



You ended the original NAP and attacked me after you pretended to offer an alliance. Once you realized I was not an easy target, you agreed to a new NAP. You then requested that the period of the exit clause be extended to five years. My messages concerning border negotiations went unanswered for weeks. Then you backstabbed me. You attacked without exercising the exit clause you requested. I accepted your excuse, that you had forgot to check your email lol, and I offered a cease fire. You accepted the ceasefire via email, then attacked again the following turn. Deal
Ellurid Spin


While the ships lost were getting on in years...


Ellurid, that is a laughable excuse for your failures. Kiloton to kiloton, your BBs lose to my lower tech CCs. Though you have always held the technological advantage, your attacks on my planets seem poorly conceived and terribly executed. Dunce

In summary, I am not impressed by bullying, lies, backstabbing, or projection. Even though one might be the aggressor of every conflict in which one is involved, use of such tactics, ultimately shows them to be a coward. It is therefore typical(and ridiculous) that they would now attempt to provoke others, to do what they have not the stomach for.
Seeing what you have made of your flag, the character of any who follow it will be transparent.
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Re: Dark times lie ahead my friends Tue, 02 June 2009 19:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It would seem that the Lacon have forgotton that they had to scurry under mama Bugs skirt to avoid losing planets after suffering major defeats, so you may wish to rethink your calling the Ellurid cowards. Otherwise I simply find your need to insult a opponent you could not defeat by yourself laughable and to reply in turn would simply lower me to your pathetic level.


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neilhoward

 
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Ellurid, please do not mistake. I see a difference, but perhaps it is too subtle. I do not insult the Ellurid people. I criticize their behavior, as well as highlight the disparity between their actions and words.

You are unable to reply in turn, because the Lacon have comported themselves with civility and honour.

As to "scurrying" and "major defeats", I have yet to retreat from a single skirmish. You shot down a Starbase at Eridanus and then bolted. Did you flee because of the chaff Bug placed at Snake's Belly, or the fleet of Battleships I assembled there?

I do not believe you think I am pathetic. I rather believe you are scared. There is no need to worry though. My alliance has no intention of "defeating" you. As we have said before, there are no plans to initiate hostile actions against you, but we will defend our people.

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Re: Dark times lie ahead my friends Sat, 13 June 2009 18:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eagle of Fire

 
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The Bugs are great to accuse others, but when their action need to speak for themselves then they don't match what is being said.

An armed Bug DD is currently orbiting a planet recently conquered by the Lurkers few years ago. May we ask again who was accusing who to be sending armed ships in their neighbors territory?

We are still watching you, Big Bug...



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Eagle of Fire wrote on Sat, 13 June 2009 18:51

The Bugs are great to accuse others, but when their action need to speak for themselves then they don't match what is being said.

An armed Bug DD is currently orbiting a planet recently conquered by the Lurkers few years ago. May we ask again who was accusing who to be sending armed ships in their neighbors territory?



You are joking right? Well, since there is nothing to indicate that you are trying to be funny then you are probably scared.

That one destroyer is on the border that the Bugs and Lacon had initially proposed. North of that border that Bugs and Lacon proposed are some 850 ships of the Lurkers and Eagles, including battleships and bombers.

But watch out, that is one very powerful destroyer. It could easily take down half of those Lurker and Eagle ships all by itself!

Note that there are no Bug armed ships past the border that we proposed.

Also note the Eagle fleet at 1163, 1486, including two battleships, and an Eagle minefield, obviously laid by a cloaked armed ship, beyond the border that the Eagles and Lurkers themselves had proposed.

So to be real blunt here, if you are going to try to put some spin on this situation to make yourselves look good, and our alliance look bad, you need to come up with something much better than that feeble attempt.

The Big Bug

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Re: Dark times lie ahead my friends Tue, 16 June 2009 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Eagle of Fire

 
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We, Fornaxians, are never joking.

The one screening their actions with lies is you, Big Bug. Short of your obvious sarcasm:

-Either proposed borders have not been accepted yet, as far as the Fornaxians know. We do not recognize their validity. Plus, they'd need to be renegotiated in regard to the recent events versus the Alpheus/Lacon. Mentionning those half-finished treaty is simply ridiculous.

-We never sent any ships north of the aforementionned planet. All our ships, short of a few scout ships, are south of that position because it is a warzone and we are fighting -Rancor- daily in that contested area.

-Minefields are set up defensively. The minefield you mentioned is up because it is between our newly conquered planets and another -Rancor- planet, right next to yours. As we said already, you are pathetically protecting -Rancor-... And you seem to expect to be able to sit back and watch the fireworks without being annoyed by anything resulting from it. This is a mistake.

It is the second time that we need to remind you to check your facts before spreading lies. We are not amused, and our patience is wearing thin.

We are still watching you.



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We, Fornaxians, are never joking.


How dull. Laughing

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The one screening their actions with lies is you, Big Bug.


Hmm? While I may be guilty of misdirection and generating confusion, I do not lie.

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-Either proposed borders have not been accepted yet, as far as the Fornaxians know. We do not recognize their validity. Plus, they'd need to be renegotiated in regard to the recent events versus the Alpheus/Lacon. Mentionning those half-finished treaty is simply ridiculous.


So not being willing to keep to the border that you suggested, without any previous declaration saying otherwise, says what about your honor?

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-We never sent any ships north of the aforementionned planet. All our ships, short of a few scout ships, are south of that position


And I suppose the Eagle battleships at 1163, 1486 are defectors? Or maybe a mirage?

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because it is a warzone and we are fighting -Rancor- daily in that contested area.


Amazing how long it is taking two races, with a combined economy three times that of the -Rancor-, to defeat their fleets.

Maybe you should attack me, though I am not sure that you could defeat my fearsome deatroyers.

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-Minefields are set up defensively. The minefield you mentioned is up because it is between our newly conquered planets and another -Rancor- planet, right next to yours.


Yes I see. That fearsome planet of Sea Squared, with about 50K -Rancor- colonists, no ships, and a barely armed space dock. That is even tougher than one of my destroyers.

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As we said already, you are pathetically protecting -Rancor-... And you seem to expect to be able to sit back and watch the fireworks without being annoyed by anything resulting from it. This is a mistake.


I will not be annoyed by anything that happens. Everything is going according to the plan. Cool

And if my efforts to protect the -Rancor- from extinction are indeed pathetic, then that is equally matched by the Eagle and Lurker inability to kill the Rancor fleet.

Maybe if you cannot succeed in killing them you should come after the Bugs. We have no big defensive fleets on your border. Maybe you could win a few battles.

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It is the second time that we need to remind you to check your facts before spreading lies. We are not amused, and our patience is wearing thin.


And you have yet to show that anything I said was a lie. Of course you are not amused. You do not joke and apparently have no sense of humor. Razz

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We are still watching you.


Dang. You scared me so much my wings fell off. Now what am I supposed to do? Shocked

The Big Bug

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Re: Dark times lie ahead my friends Sat, 20 June 2009 18:35 Go to previous message
Eagle of Fire

 
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We were tempted for a short time to reply to your, again, completely sarcastic message... However, the more we were reading you, the more we realized that you really have nothing to say and that you are simply blowing some hot air around.

Only a blind person would not see the mercy we displayed so far toward -Rancor-, but especially toward your alliance. Our patience is now gone. Since you are practically begging for war, let it be war.




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