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| Re: Orgy: When? |
Wed, 26 November 2008 13:31   |
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| magic9mushroom wrote on Wed, 26 November 2008 17:07 |
and, what uses does an orgy have beyond overpop and popdrop?
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None.
But overpop (or 'only' filling up your planets 100%) and popdrop are very important.
But the orgie as initially described isn't a really wise use of your pop. Why dropping millions of pop to conquere a world instead of just bringing with you some bombers?
Nevertheless your pop is a mighty weapon
* to support your bombers
* to speed up conquest
* and to populate a newly conquered planet at once
* therefore you can build a starbase / dock rightaway to fuel up
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| Re: Orgy: When? |
Wed, 26 November 2008 22:17 |
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As a regular IS player, I view bombers as a support for the popdrop, not the other way around, and really I prefer to packet over bombing. I want to preserve the enemy's infrastructure and people are actually cheaper than factories or mines for a +f IS.
Packet and popdrop, put up a SD and move on.
PS: This why I have AR so much, no popdropping. I have to bring colonizers and wait the extra years to bring the planet into production.
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| Re: Orgy: When? |
Thu, 27 November 2008 17:37 |
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And if they have a turn warning and freighters, you only kill 100 population per starbase 
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| Re: Orgy: When? |
Fri, 28 November 2008 12:36 |
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| mlaub |
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| Marduk wrote on Thu, 27 November 2008 13:31 |
It's more that you don't get anything out of an AR world. Some minerals, sure, but no infrastructure. Worlds of other races at least give you mines, and maybe factories as well.
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I don't view it that way. I love AR neighbors. They are usually an easy kill if you don't let them get the fountain up, and they barely touch the mineral concentrations. Sure you have to build infrastructure. However, for an IS with an Orgy, that is trivial. Just set your pop on the planet to 300% and everything builds pretty fast.
I would rather have intact min cons, then infrastructure. And, you still get another planet to create res for research.
-Matt
Global Warming - A climatic change eagerly awaited by most Minnesotans.
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| Re: Orgy: When? |
Sat, 21 February 2009 05:45 |
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| vonKreedon wrote on Fri, 28 November 2008 02:54 |
To be clear, I hate playing against AR when I'm IS because there is no popdropping on the AR.
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Hmmm. I know you can auto drop pop on an AR world the same turn as destroy the base.
I don't recall getting any tech doing that though.
Anybody know if you do?
Sulpholobus.
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| Re: Orgy: When? |
Sat, 21 February 2009 07:40 |
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| PaulCr |
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You can't get tech from pop dropping the AR, I was pretty sure anyway but I've just put a quick testbed together with an AR (3 tech fields higher) colonising 14 planets and then an IT killing them off and dropping pop the same turn and it never received any tech. Not too surprising since they live entirely on the starbase which you've just blown into tiny little pieces.
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| Re: Orgy: When? |
Sat, 21 February 2009 09:43 |
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| Xardre |
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The only tech you can get from AR is battle salvage. You cant even pop drop the planet. Colonizers will be needed to establish your colony once the starbase has been destroyed.
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| Re: Orgy: When? |
Sat, 21 February 2009 09:48 |
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| Xardre wrote on Sat, 21 February 2009 14:43 |
The only tech you can get from AR is battle salvage. You cant even pop drop the planet. Colonizers will be needed to establish your colony once the starbase has been destroyed.
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You can pop drop the planet the same year the starbase is destroyed and save yourself a coloniser, try it, you can't receive any tech from doing so however.
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| Re: Orgy: When? |
Sun, 22 February 2009 06:58 |
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| iztok |
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Hi!
You need ground combat to get the tech. Since planet's empty (like with bombed-out planets), there's no combat. You can drop the pop because the invisible "colony support module" is still on the planet. It's removed after boming and WP-1 tasks are done.
BR, Iztok
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