| AR early game |
Mon, 16 October 2006 17:36  |
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 knightpraetor |
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can someone give an example...separately if needed for different types.
Do you colonize high greens before you get 250k pop? when do you start colonizing etc
oh another thing i'm curious about is how valuable early energy tech is compared to getting large freighters to ship with.
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| Re: AR early game |
Mon, 16 October 2006 20:22  |
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| knightpraetor wrote on Tue, 17 October 2006 07:36 |
Do you colonize high greens before you get 250k pop? when do you start colonizing etc
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Partially depends on the race.
But generally with AR I would start colonising sooner - again, the sqrt in the resource formula encourages spreading your pop out. You need to be carefull not to cripple your growth - I'm not likely to send much more than a pinta load (22kt) of population to non-breeders in early game. I want to get *something* to all the planets I want, for the disproportionate resources small colonies generate and just to stake a claim.
A 3i AR is a good race to 'train your mind' to ship pop out like crazy. Take a 6% growth 3i AR and compare the results you get if you keep the pop on HW until 25%, to what you get if you hold it at around 5%....
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oh another thing i'm curious about is how valuable early energy tech is compared to getting large freighters to ship with.
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Early energy tech is crucial. Those first few levels have a massive effect. Again, due to sqrt forumla the later levels have a lesser effect so are less important. With most (but not all) AT races I'd go for en 5 or 6 before doing much more than scouting. Then I'd get med freighters and start colonising.
It'd depend on the universe and race whether I decided to get en10 or LFs first... If my colonies are widely spread then LF is going to be usefull... If my colonies are densely packed and I have ISB, then it's less urgent...
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| Re: AR early game |
Tue, 03 June 2008 22:29 |
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| iztok wrote on Thu, 29 May 2008 02:46 |
Hi!| Soobie wrote on Tue, 27 May 2008 13:32 |
AR taking NRSE and NOT taking IFE in a non-packed universe
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Counterintuitive.
1) What AR lacks in early and mid game is iron: first for ships, then for bases and more ships, and lastly for remote miners. What AR has in excess after ultras are built is germ.
2) NRSE engines use mostly iron, that's also in very short demand for other purposes. Scoop engines use mostly germ which AR should have in abundance.
3) The longer the travel distances, the more deaths AR suffers in space. No FM --> lower speeds --> more deaths.
Conclusion: I'd say that's a loss-loss combo.
BR, Iztok
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Good summary Iztok but, unless you're planning on getting prop tech from an ally, you'll probably need to take 3.5 cheap techs (En,Weap,Con cheap, prop std) to leave NRSE unticked & it also means that you'll have trouble designing an otherwise strong race.
IMO you need to either take both IFE & NRSE + Prop expensive and use the FM for a lot of your ships until the late game (my current AR still uses the FM for all but a handfull of ships in 2496, including warships & LFs) or take neither. In the latter case you save a worthwhile # of race points from the noIFE/noNRSE combo but the need Prop std + you need to research prop to at least level 8 earlier & that is problematic when you also need En (res),Con (bigger bases) & weap (for survival).
Personally, I don't bother that much about an extra 3% pop loss except in the early game so my FM based LFs are 60% cheaper than my IS-10 based ones which I do use but only for special purposes.
Good thing it's just a game. Imagine the outcry in the real world if a leader had a policy of saving resources rather than lives!!
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