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icon1.gif  how about this? Wed, 05 February 2003 19:06 Go to next message
The Taubat is currently offline The Taubat

 
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Ok to put it bluntly I dont like the VML version for one thing, the ship pictures are too dark. here is one thing that you should consider when you make more revisions, refits. Now SFC has em, here is what you could do with refits, say you have 100 NEW cruisers, all jihads and you have just researched juggernaut missiles, and short on number of new hulls that could be made, I wouldnt just delete the jihad design because you have 100 of em. With the refit option you could send those cruisers to your nearest starbase and apply refit, you do it ALLL the time with starbases, why not ships? now granted, if you didnt apply ceartin restrictions it would be all too easy create a new hull. say you have a frigate and armed with beamers, researched better beamers, with the refit you could apply ONLY those new beamers. same thing with engines, cloaks, jammers, minelayers, scanners and other things. what would be unique with the engines is RS is replaced with RS and with scanners, PS upgraded to better PS, HOWEVER could not change the non-PS and upgrade it to PS. and what about unique hulls given too you? it make it easier for an alliance, give 20 dreadnoughts to your new ally and let him build the weapons in. it would put less strain on your rescources and you would be able create a powerful new alliance


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Re: how about this? Thu, 06 February 2003 02:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Verker is currently offline Verker

 
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The Taubat wrote on Thu, 06 February 2003 01:06

Ok to put it bluntly I dont like the VML version for one thing, the ship pictures are too dark. here is one thing that you should consider when you make more revisions, refits.


a) Well, if people liked everything else about VML, I'd be more than happy, because I didn't do these pictures (they are taken from the SSNG! shiplines AFAIK) and it certainly is a lot easier to implement new pictures than to balance the new hulls, weapons and other stuff. Feel free to point me to a website with better ship pictures (or to an artist, willing and capable to do some). They just have to be free of any copyrights or charges and have to fit with the restrictions of Stars! (low resolution, 256 colors).

b) I agree that refits could add a lot to the game, if the concept was done the right way. However you have to keep in mind, that other than implementing new pictures, I am limited to do what Stars! offers as a concept and what StarEd allows to manipulate. AFAIK, you cannot apply the concept up upgrading bases to ship hulls, at least not without a glance at the source code, which the Jeffs have said they'd never ever release, not matter what. Besides, there's the 16 design limit, that would hurt you a lot: upgrading 2 ship types at the same time would require 4 slots, add another to xfer empty PRT specific ship hulls to other players (while the reciever yould need 2 slots, too). Overall I'd say that is a useless attempt as long as we're limited to 16 designs.

Something great to play with would be the opportunity, to let allies, once set to friend, build PRT specific hull of the other race - for a limited timeframe, say. I'll do my best to check whether that is possible, but without help from the Jeffs I'm afraid we cannot be too confodent.

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Re: how about this? Thu, 06 February 2003 09:19 Go to previous message
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well on the ship pictures I dont any sight or anything right of hand, and the refits I was thinking would be a whole diffrent option, like where you change from ships to starbase hulls.


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