| Iperithon's AR |
Fri, 03 February 2006 06:06  |
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Thanks alot! now i can tinker and tinker goooood!
I'll be shur to keep a check on this site to see if there's any help i can contribute or discuss ^^
BTW.
My Custom Race i'm working with...
Necroids
Primary: Alternate Reality (Wanted to try this ^^)
Lesser: IFE, ARM, IS, MA, LSP
Ranges: 0.12g - 0.92g, -200c - 0c, Immune to Radiation
Growth: 12%
Resorces: 10 (er... was unlike normal factory stuff cause of AR)
Research:
En - 75%
Wep - 0%
Prop - 75%
Const - -50%
Elec - 75%
Bio - 0%
All 75% at tech 3 - yes!
This is just what i thought might work for me, to putz around and test AR (since i wanted to for some time now ^^;;)
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| Re: Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
Fri, 03 February 2006 06:13  |
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Take energy cheap. AR races depend on energy for resources.
Ptolemy
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| Re: Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
Fri, 03 February 2006 07:21 |
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| Iperithon wrote on Fri, 03 February 2006 12:06 |
My Custom Race i'm working with...
Necroids
Primary: Alternate Reality (Wanted to try this ^^)
Lesser: IFE, ARM, IS, MA, LSP
Ranges: 0.12g - 0.92g, -200c - 0c, Immune to Radiation
Growth: 12%
Resorces: 10 (er... was unlike normal factory stuff cause of AR)
Research:
En - 75%
Wep - 0%
Prop - 75%
Const - -50%
Elec - 75%
Bio - 0%
All 75% at tech 3 - yes!
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Hi Iperithon,
that's a nice race. Still has some flaws:
As Ptolemy mentioned, you should have energy at least normal, better cheap. Weapons should be cheap too - it's the most important field for all races, except if you rely on tech trading. You can have Bio expensive though - no need to research past level 4 or 7...
MA usually isn't worth the points.
I'd also think about taking NRSE for the points. IFE is fine and quiteimportant for AR.
Hab ranges: you shouldn't move the fields all the way to the edge. I recommend that you don't cover the last few clicks. From my experience, it worked quite well with one small and one large band. The immunity is fine.
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| Re: Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
Fri, 03 February 2006 08:22 |
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| Kotk | 
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AR? I like AR. 
My comments ...
LRTs: MA is bad others are ok. Just that if you got expensive propulsion then NRSE is also good idea, gives you warp 10 engine earlier.
Hab: 1 in 4 is hard to afford with so lot of goodies.
Edged hab is bad idea because there are very few planets at gravity and temperature edges and later you can terraform the few that are. Moving ... 0.16 to 1.08 and -168 to 16 is possible with pure gain in all fields of race design but i would take even pair of clicks farther from edges. Other thing about hab is that it is better to have wide gravity + narrow temperature for AR.
Growth: 12 with LSP is really low. Try to have 15 at least.
Resources: 10 is my favorite too.
Tech: AR never wins with 0 friends so weapons normal is not so bad idea. Energy expensive however is quite terrible. You got to aim for energy 6 by turn 5 or 6 so your HW can research lots of construction for cheaper cargo vessels and maybe better miners (with ARM you got to use construction 7 miners before construction 15). Why bio ... AR needs no much bio, so take it expensive. Also start at 3 slows you only down early.
Try:
LRTS: IFE, ARM, IS, NRSE, LSP
Hab: 0.21 to 4.64 / -140 to -52 / immune
Growth: 15
Resource divisor: 10
Energy -0%, weapons -0%, construction -50%, rest +75%
no start at 3. .. 4 leftover points to concentrations.
It got similar strengths but less weaknesses and so performs lot better. 
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| Re: Whelp, Time to be asked again.... |
Fri, 03 February 2006 10:05 |
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Wow, thanks alot guys on all this input.
I played a game with no enemies, just to see how well my expansion went with AR, and my Hab bands. I found i was geting 1 in every 8 or so planets, but they grew very very quickly.
I can see how the energy is needed, dukno why i took cheap bio >.>
I think i'm going to make a post about my Custom race down on the... er race sugestion forums, i belive it was. and post reports on how i felt the testing of that race went.
I might acually Work on more, but so far, i like AR races.
but now that my problem is solved temporarly, i'll move the conversation elswhere ^^ myself *sagenod*
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