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icon4.gif  New splashscreen for the Stars! exe Thu, 30 January 2003 14:30 Go to next message
Verker is currently offline Verker

 
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Hi everybody,

I'm currently doing the new Stars! splash screen for my VML-mod. You can check out sample pictures here (no, the .exe currently downloadable isn't yet updated with one of the pictures):

http://members.chello.at/verker/VML-download.html#splashscre en

Feedback and discussion appreciated.


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The 3D one is more modern, personally the 'classic' logo of Stars! is something I never really liked. How hard is it to make it available in two flavors that can play with each-other? (does the splash really affect what saves it'll load, I bet not)


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Re: New splashscreen for the Stars! exe Thu, 30 January 2003 20:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hey! what 3d proggy do you use???

3D max, lightwave??

i use Cinema 4d and i SUCK!!! yeah i suck at texturing too lol, ill have to keep an eye on you Smile

heres one of my better pieces of work

http://www.hyper.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/bot9.jpg

Very Happy no textures just a sweet shader and some real nice lighting Smile


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Re: New splashscreen for the Stars! exe Fri, 31 January 2003 03:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice one!

But just to avoid any misunderstandings: I'm not a graphics artist. The screenshots on my website show splashscreens of two different not yet published beta .exe files. I did not do the graphics!

The first one is from an artist, whom I already contacted about using it for VML. Results posted here later tonight Wink

The second one is just a partial scan of empires retail package Stars! multiplayer twinpack (came with two codes and two CDs IIRC).



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Re: New splashscreen for the Stars! exe Fri, 31 January 2003 07:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Bryce (because its so beautiful with textures it really is much easier than most programs) Truespace, and sometimes animation master.


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Re: New splashscreen for the Stars! exe Fri, 31 January 2003 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Verker wrote on Fri, 31 January 2003 09:36

Nice one!
The first one is from an artist, whom I already contacted about using it for VML. Results posted here later tonight Wink



I'm more than happy to reveal his reply:

"Hi
thanks for being interested.
If you want to use it, I think it's better to put my name and url there(name: Moin, url: http://phusion9.edesigns.nl/)
So we won't have to deal with copyright problems Very Happy
see ya
moin"

Thanks a lot, Moin. I suggest you visit Moins website, if you like the new Stars! splashscreen for VML-mod. It will look like this:

http://members.chello.at/verker/VMLpics/splash1.jpg

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Re: New splashscreen for the Stars! exe Sat, 01 February 2003 16:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Very sharp!
If the splashscreen and ship pics can be changed without making the exe incompatible with others, I'm all ears! Very Happy
I have modified my default exe and it's caused no compatibility problems - though it was only switching the ship pics of the dreadnought and minimorph so my machines of death can actually look the part.

Oh, and the UI in v2.6 looks a lot better, the faux 3d edges on everything in v2.7 look tacky IMHO.
If we could change the look of the UI that would be interesting...


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i cant edit that post, i dunno y but it wont let me.... hmph

AND HOW may i ask, is it an AD ??


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Re: New splashscreen for the Stars! exe Sat, 01 February 2003 20:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, you're advertising your graphics work here. Smile
Since Ron has his reasons for not wanting huge graphics on his site, it might be better to use links to your own site for this sort of material. Rolling Eyes

With respect to the other postings here concerning the modifications of the Stars! .exe files and the splashscreens and graphics, I would use extreme caution in this endeavour. There are international copyright laws that govern the distribution and alteration of copyrighted materials both published and unpublished including program codes, graphics, sounds, documentation, any many other aspects of a computer program. Sometimes the ownership is transferred but the copyrights don't usually run out just because the program is 7 or so years old. Rolling Eyes Very Happy

PS your picture has already affected the screen view format on this forum as I now have to scroll left and right to see the entire width of the text posts. The least you could have reduced the size of the pix first. Smile


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Re: New splashscreen for the Stars! exe Sat, 01 February 2003 21:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think VML is not a copyright problem (well it might violate not changing stuff but). Anyone who can use it must buy Stars! to begin with, as it is a J patch fix no online serial numbers would work. Also Stars! is so old few people would bother putting much money into suing, besides their is no monetary damage done to the company (serial # again) so it'd be hard to sue for much other than making him stop, and that I don't think is worth people's time.


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Re: New splashscreen for the Stars! exe Sat, 01 February 2003 22:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hyper wrote on Sat, 01 February 2003 19:30

i cant edit that post, i dunno y but it wont let me.... hmph



Sorry about that, try again. I had set the 'time to edit' limit to 60 minutes.

Now that he's done his editing, I've set it back to 60.


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Re: New splashscreen for the Stars! exe Sun, 02 February 2003 07:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BlueTurbit wrote on Sat, 01 February 2003 20:45

Well, you're advertising your graphics work here. Smile
Since Ron has his reasons for not wanting huge graphics on his site, it might be better to use links to your own site for this sort of material. Rolling Eyes


it IS off my own damn site... y whold i post somthing SOMBODY ELSE did?? ( now its my turn to Rolling Eyes )


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PS your picture has already affected the screen view format on this forum as I now have to scroll left and right to see the entire width of the text posts. The least you could have reduced the size of the pix first. Smile



WTF!!! youre using WHAT resoloution?! that picture is only 800x600, its tiny man, UP YOUR RESOLOUTION, 640x480 is a waste of time. stars plays crap at that res, everything is crap at that res... and if your computer CANT do higher than that.... BIN IT, or get another graphics card ( 2 ) and that one CAN!

if its cause u cant READ anything smaller than at 640x480, try Glasses or better yet, increase the text size in explorer to the biggest possible ( here ill help you out! - click View -> Text Size -> Largest, that will help you ALOT



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Re: New splashscreen for the Stars! exe Sun, 02 February 2003 08:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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WTF!!! youre using WHAT resoloution?! that picture is only 800x600, its tiny man, UP YOUR RESOLOUTION, 640x480 is a waste of time. stars plays crap at that res, everything is crap at that res... and if your computer CANT do higher than that.... BIN IT, or get another graphics card ( 2 ) and that one CAN!

if its cause u cant READ anything smaller than at 640x480, try Glasses or better yet, increase the text size in explorer to the biggest possible ( here ill help you out! - click View -> Text Size -> Largest, that will help you ALOT


Up your resolution too. Very Happy I do use 800 most of the time and switch to 1024 often when I am running Stars! as it gives me a larger view of the map. My graphics card is just fine thanks. It even does audio/video IO's as well as RF television via cable IO's via RG52 cable. Although when they go solely digital in a couple years and ditch all the analog signals, I will have to upgrade graphics card for sure, as my RF port will be useless except for old vcr's and other older analog sources.
I can read perfectly on my monitor as I am near sighted, thank you. So I will save my glasses for driving, mostly. Thanks for the help with IE. Sure coulda' used your help when I was repairing Commodores, Amigas and Atari ST's back in the 80's. Smile

The problem you are missing here is that a window such as HWForum uses also has borders and menus, headings, etc. So an 800x600 screen will not hold an 800x600 picture in addition to these borders, etc. without running out of room. Therefore scrolling is required, as the oversized picture has managed to change the format of the entire thread, not just the message with the picture in it. Do you understand? Smile


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hasnt changed a thing for me, i run at 1600x1280 and no formatting has changed at all on my 21" monitor, so to me this is a small picture compared to what you see on your dinosaur of a computer


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I use 1024x768 all of the time. Its the best thing on my flat screen, since it can only 'emulate' 800x600 and 640x480, it doesn't go below that. And yes, it made me scroll left to right a very small amount on this forum.


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Re: New splashscreen for the Stars! exe Sun, 02 February 2003 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hyper wrote on Sun, 02 February 2003 09:06

hasnt changed a thing for me, i run at 1600x1280 and no formatting has changed at all on my 21" monitor, so to me this is a small picture compared to what you see on your dinosaur of a computer

Good. I am happy for you. Smile
But the problem was that it affected other computers. And this is a forum that includes many users with many different computer configurations, is it not?
So the general idea is to keep it comfortable for most users by not introducing unnecessary elements. I am sure many users also use telephone connections thereby an additional problem with excess use of graphics as was discussed on this forum a long time ago with respect to the use of avatars and such.
I love graphics. Ron can vouch for that. Very Happy But at this time they are not wanted on this forum. Glad when they are gone and the forum is back to normal. Smile

BTW comments like "WTF, BIN IT, get another graphics card, try glasses", "dinosaur of a computer" and teaching me how to use explorer are not good points to win your argument and are more likely to work against you than for you in this forum. But I could be wrong. Smile


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BlueTurbit wrote on Sun, 02 February 2003 10:43

BTW comments like "WTF, BIN IT, get another graphics card, try glasses", "dinosaur of a computer" and teaching me how to use explorer are not good points to win your argument and are more likely to work against you than for you in this forum. But I could be wrong. Smile


No, you're not wrong in my opinion.


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hmph, im used to being on forums where everyone flames me for using pics lower than 800x600 so **rasspppp**

and IMHO he IS wrong...

everyone enjoys a good flamewar... as long as no bad language is used and no personal insults are flung about, this stuff aint even PG13 level Razz


( btw.. thx for putting me back to apprentice eheheh
can u change my tag to somthing like.. "The Etearnal Apprentice" )


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DSL makes me feel so good inside. That picture takes like 4 seconds to download, its a beautiful thing, and my DSL comes with a dial-up service too, if I ever needed to use internet without a DSL setup.


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heh cable here, piccy loads up instantly...

i also have a 56k service availible... but i WILL NOT use it cause 56k sux...

i had to use it for 3 years god damn and i will never go back NEVER!!

( playing Unreal tournament on 56k CANNOT be reccomended )



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Hyper wrote on Sun, 02 February 2003 16:37

( btw.. thx for putting me back to apprentice eheheh
can u change my tag to somthing like.. "The Etearnal Apprentice" )


Huh? I didn't touch your rank. Rank is not based on number of posts. Check the FAQ (rank section) for an explanation.



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ohh... umm ok..

is crewman apprentice the first rank??



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Hyper wrote on Sun, 02 February 2003 21:42

ohh... umm ok..

is crewman apprentice the first rank??

No, Crewman Recruit is the first rank (one stripe). You are currently at Crewman Apprentice, which is the next step up from Crewman Recruit.

Check the FAQ link at the top right of the page for an explanation of how it works. ("What are the military style ranks I see...")



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Ok, I've finally arrived from my Retreat!

Err, I don't see what the problem was about that link to that JPG.

The image never showed on my screen, just the link. Click the link, a new window showed with the image.

Or has something now been changed and I'm just behind on the times?

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