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| Re: AR Need Love Too |
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Yes, games usually run normally during summer. Stars! is not a college, after all, you don't get summer breaks.
As for the length of the hold, I'd say it depends on the host and the players... as well as the length of your absence.
If it's a week or two, players usually don't mind the hold. After all, we all know RL comes first. We have jobs, families and other pastimes taking up their fair share of our time.
If it's more, though... it's best to avoid getting in games you know in advance you'll have to hold for a long period of time... or arrange for another player standing in for you, temporarily or permanently.
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| Re: AR Need Love Too |
Mon, 23 June 2014 08:05 |
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Loucipher wrote on Sun, 22 June 2014 15:23Yes, games usually run normally during summer. Stars! is not a college, after all, you don't get summer breaks.
As for the length of the hold, I'd say it depends on the host and the players... as well as the length of your absence.
If it's a week or two, players usually don't mind the hold. After all, we all know RL comes first. We have jobs, families and other pastimes taking up their fair share of our time.
If it's more, though... it's best to avoid getting in games you know in advance you'll have to hold for a long period of time... or arrange for another player standing in for you, temporarily or permanently.
exactly, couldn't have said it better
1> Inquisitor80
2> Louciphe
3> theval
4> mrvan (?)
5> dlrichert
6> Mac1
7> LittleEddie
May be a good idea to have the races verified for viability.
but we need a neutral party to look over the results
i think something like : all interested players can submit to the neutral body, where they got over 20k @ 2450 (AccBBC start, no MaxMin, alone in small packed uni) with his/her "for-this-game" AR race.
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| Re: AR Need Love Too |
Mon, 23 June 2014 12:11 |
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LittleEddie wrote on Mon, 23 June 2014 09:27I don't really like the testing of races without a set universe, as in Race AR, Random seed ???? ( 0 to 4096), size etcc... in aa .def file
Otherwise I could just find the best universe and use it, it would be easy with 8 90% worlds close to my HW.
LittleEddie
The validity check, as I understand it, is intended to assure that all of the players have a minimum level of competence with AR, so that the game is not unbalanced due to poor race design by some of the players.
If any given player is willing to iterate through random seeds in order to get a result that meets the validity check, I strongly suspect that player is sufficiently competent to not unbalance the game.
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| Re: AR Need Love Too |
Mon, 23 June 2014 12:40 |
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skoormit wrote on Mon, 23 June 2014 11:11LittleEddie wrote on Mon, 23 June 2014 09:27I don't really like the testing of races without a set universe, as in Race AR, Random seed ???? ( 0 to 4096), size etcc... in aa .def file
Otherwise I could just find the best universe and use it, it would be easy with 8 90% worlds close to my HW.
LittleEddie
The validity check, as I understand it, is intended to assure that all of the players have a minimum level of competence with AR, so that the game is not unbalanced due to poor race design by some of the players.
If any given player is willing to iterate through random seeds in order to get a result that meets the validity check, I strongly suspect that player is sufficiently competent to not unbalance the game.
exactly
also i don't see a real difference between med/sparse and small/packed
Like Skoormit said, it is just more of a "validity" test.
until we get a neutral judge for this it is academic
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| Re: AR Need Love Too |
Tue, 24 June 2014 10:56 |
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Inquisitor80 wrote on Tue, 24 June 2014 07:39skoormit wrote on Mon, 23 June 2014 12:03Inquisitor80 wrote on Mon, 23 June 2014 11:40...
until we get a neutral judge for this it is academic
I've already offered to review the validity submissions.
oops, sorry i missed that. ok, what is your preferred method of receiving the race/proof ?
PM is fine. Since the validation check should use the race that you intend to use for the game, you should wait until the host calls for race submissions, then send your validation check game files and your race file to me. I'll look at the validation game, confirm that it meets the requirements and that it used the submitted race, and then forward the race to the host.
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| Re: AR Need Love Too |
Tue, 24 June 2014 13:32 |
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> also i don't see a real difference between med/sparse and small/packed
Just as a comment (conditions are done by host and/or checker):
Wether somebody uses med/sparse or small/packed... or somebody adds also some AIs to make it a little bit more realistic... I wouldn't care.
Personally I'd use the parameter of the real game with the race design plus as many AIs as expected players... you can always make it more difficult (or more realistic) for yourself as long as you don't go below the requirements. And afterwards you might do it again because you discovered that some tweaking of your race design would be worthwhile...
> skoormit
> I've already offered to review the validity submissions.
Fine.
Otherwise I would had offered to check since this additional requirement seems to be my "fault"/suggestion.
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| Re: AR Need Love Too |
Tue, 01 July 2014 08:15 |
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iztok wrote on Sun, 29 June 2014 17:45Hi!
> sure, whats your thoughts?
Medium normal universe stretched to sparse density.
BTW sparse density is hard to AR. Lots of pop death by travel and lots of iron required for shipping. Not that I'm complaining, because this alone will have quite an impact on race design. 
> if you sign on it will make 8 player
If I'm reading the last mrvans's post correctly, he's out of this game, so I'd be the 7th.
BR, Iztok
If skoormit doesn't mind the extra work at set up i would be agreeable to that change.
Any objections?
Also the sparse density is on purpose, the distance for pop deaths, travel times and general distance between stars is part of the game design 
yes, 7 players, appearnetly i was having a hard time counting that day 
1> Inquisitor80
2> Louciphe
3> theval
4> iztok (?)
5> dlrichert
6> Mac1
7> LittleEddie
i think i will let this run about another week to check for intrest then assign a date for race submittal
objections? comments? complaints? 
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