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Why are they called Nubians? Wed, 17 August 2016 07:20 Go to next message
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For basically every other hull, I can understand the rationale behind its name. There are a bunch of RL warship classes, and the rest are mostly straight descriptions of what the hull does. Nubian, I'm stumped. Does anyone know?

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Re: Why are they called Nubians? Fri, 19 August 2016 20:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Not sure if this is the answer, but it seems to fit:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nubia_Star_Drives,_Incorporated

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Re: Why are they called Nubians? Sat, 20 August 2016 04:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Can't be. Stars predates the Star Wars prequels. Laughing

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Re: Why are they called Nubians? Sat, 20 August 2016 14:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, Stars does predate the movie prequels. I thought maybe there were some written star wars stories out there that might have been published before Stars. Or maybe star wars stole the name from Stars.

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Re: Why are they called Nubians? Mon, 22 August 2016 00:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ManicLurch wrote on Sat, 20 August 2016 11:24
Yes, Stars does predate the movie prequels. I thought maybe there were some written star wars stories out there that might have been published before Stars. Or maybe star wars stole the name from Stars.

Both seem plausible. I am sure there is quite a bit of influence from the books and other SF. I would not be surprised to encounter a Nubian class ship in a David Weber book either.

I wonder if there is any allusion/reference/explanation in the unofficial history. I don't know where it is (didn't seem to survive Art's last migration).

Here is my guess: Not a geographical reference to a region of Africa, but an anglicized Latin term.
From Nube. Cloud, Volley, Swarm, Formation, Gloom, Threatening Approach;
Means of Concealment, Veil, Cloak, Phantom;
Name of a Greek Nymph responsible for setting in motion events which would lead to mythical reification of kingly authority across the Mediterranean;
The translation of Aristophanes (among other things) hilariously taking the wind out of Socrates;
and oh yeah, also RULER OF THE SKY.

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Re: Why are they called Nubians? Mon, 22 August 2016 15:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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magic9mushroom wrote on Wed, 17 August 2016 13:20
For basically every other hull, I can understand the rationale behind its name. There are a bunch of RL warship classes, and the rest are mostly straight descriptions of what the hull does. Nubian, I'm stumped. Does anyone know?

Some dormant part of my memory stirred and generated a piece of info I can't confirm: "In Roman empire black people from Nubia were famous as ferocious fighters."
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Heh, seems wiki agrees: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nubians I'm actually relieved my memory isn't completely rusty. Wink

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Re: Why are they called Nubians? Wed, 07 September 2016 21:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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magic9mushroom wrote on Wed, 17 August 2016 07:20
For basically every other hull, I can understand the rationale behind its name. There are a bunch of RL warship classes, and the rest are mostly straight descriptions of what the hull does. Nubian, I'm stumped. Does anyone know?

I asked Jeff McBride, and he said "They are called Nubians because Newbies would think they were all good with no downside. Really. Truly."



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Re: Why are they called Nubians? Wed, 07 September 2016 23:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yup. What he said. Laughing

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Re: Why are they called Nubians? Thu, 08 September 2016 22:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I feel honoured to receive an official response; I didn't for a moment expect one. Thanks.

...So when I made a joke with some of my friends 8 years ago about "nubian" (in relation to Stars!) and its similarity in pronunciation to "noob", I was accidentally describing its actual etymology? That's quite the irony.


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Re: Why are they called Nubians? Sun, 20 November 2016 07:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Funny thing, in late-game they actually are the dominant warship class.

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Re: Why are they called Nubians? Mon, 21 November 2016 07:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I read this thread in Sept + saw Jeff's reply. Didn't realise it was THE jeff.
I felt like a fan boy when I just reread and saw that Ron had added the forum avatars confirming it.

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Re: Why are they called Nubians? Sun, 05 August 2018 07:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ron wrote on Thu, 08 September 2016 03:55
magic9mushroom wrote on Wed, 17 August 2016 07:20
For basically every other hull, I can understand the rationale behind its name. There are a bunch of RL warship classes, and the rest are mostly straight descriptions of what the hull does. Nubian, I'm stumped. Does anyone know?

I asked Jeff McBride, and he said "They are called Nubians because Newbies would think they were all good with no downside. Really. Truly."


Well aren't they?
There's a reason or two that the Nubian hull pretty much dominates the late game era.
What are the downsides supposed to be?

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Re: Why are they called Nubians? Fri, 21 September 2018 14:10 Go to previous message
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jscoble wrote on Sun, 05 August 2018 13:57
There's a reason or two that the Nubian hull pretty much dominates the late game era.
What are the downsides supposed to be?


Well, you need to spend an unholy amount of research points to get them... usually so many that you could had easily won by just building a fleet and attacking instead of researching. For WMs dreadnaughts are of interest at con 16, for ARs death stars at con 17, for other PRTs there is no reason to research construction beyond level 13... nubians come at con 26.

Might be worth in big long games with mineral shortages but in small and supposed to be short games: boring and lack of fighting spirit.

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