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Email information... Sun, 04 November 2012 04:00 Go to next message
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When a new turn is generated by autohost it currently emails out the turn file (I presume that's configured somewhere by the host)

Would it be possible to add the next deadline to the email text (easiest in UTC probably?)

Just a thought to ensure that people don't assume that their national holidays overlap with the national holidays defined for AH.

Bob

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Re: Email information... Sun, 04 November 2012 16:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 I liked the idea.. though I would like GMT time better Wink

ps - If I'm reading you right, a small clarification... SAH national holidays (?) don't really affect gen time / gen skips. That's decided by the game host.

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Re: Email information... Mon, 05 November 2012 22:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Ok, done. Emails sent out by SAH containing turn files should tell you when the next turn will gen in GMT.

This was already part of the regular email notices (that do not contain turn files) so was easy to add to the other section of code.

[Updated on: Mon, 05 November 2012 22:41]



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Re: Email information... Tue, 06 November 2012 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Thanks Ron.
Good to see improvements coming up even after 10 years Smile..

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Re: Email information... Thu, 08 November 2012 09:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 It's only HWF that is 10 years old. Stars! AutoHost itself is 15 years old, went public May of 1997.

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Re: Email information... Mon, 12 November 2012 03:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Email information... Mon, 12 November 2012 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 And now...
My mind starts reeling...
There is a date, a date in 1995 when version 1 of Stars! was published..
and that would be a date to celebrate because that would be the 20 years anniversary of Stars!

I'm digging... Asleep at cptr

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Re: Email information... Mon, 12 November 2012 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Ostensibly, ... possibly...

I have a Stars!1.0.zip... it has a creation date of Friday, May 12, 1995...
Can anybody find earlier data?

regards,
dj

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sent out time not of the next generation Mon, 12 November 2012 15:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Ron wrote on Tue, 06 November 2012 04:40
Ok, done. Emails sent out by SAH containing turn files should tell you when the next turn will gen in GMT.


I fear that it isn't working properly yet. Here an example from fa8 (generation of today):
Quote:
This game will generate at the latest by Nov. 12 2012 08:47 GMT


This isn't the date and time of the next generation time but it fits nicely the exact time of the present generation:
..Turn Generated: Nov. 12 '12 - 8:47

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Re: sent out time not of the next generation Thu, 15 November 2012 22:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Hmm, ok I think I fixed it.

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Re: Email information... Thu, 15 November 2012 23:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Ron wrote on Thu, 08 November 2012 09:54
It's only HWF that is 10 years old. Stars! AutoHost itself is 15 years old, went public May of 1997.

SAH's first forum started Dec. 7, 1997 and went to Nov. 10, 2002 when I setup Home World Forum using FUDForum.

I still have all the 8056 posts from the old forum. Each is a separate text file and contains the filename of the previous and next posts in a thread, subject, poster name, date, and the post message. Maybe someday I'll fix up an interface to search and display them.

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Re: sent out time not of the next generation Sat, 17 November 2012 06:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Ron wrote on Fri, 16 November 2012 04:37
Hmm, ok I think I fixed it.


Not yet but getting closer *grin

Again an example from fa8. The turn (after your fixes, I think) was actually generated at: Quote:
Turn Generated: Nov. 16 '12 - 14:45


The outgoing email with the above created m-file states:Quote:
This game will generate at the latest by Nov. 16 2012 18:00 GMT
This is the time when the present turn would had been force-generated (if not all orders had been in before).

Good: The time shown is no longer the time the turn was generated but when latest the turn would be generated.

Bad: It's still not the generation time of the NEXT but the present turn.

[Updated on: Sat, 17 November 2012 06:56]

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Re: sent out time not of the next generation Sat, 17 November 2012 23:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Ok, trying again. Cool

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Re: Email information... Mon, 19 November 2012 10:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Many thanks.

Didn't get notified of responses in this thread - curious.

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Re: sent out time not of the next generation Mon, 19 November 2012 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Ron wrote on Sun, 18 November 2012 05:29
Ok, trying again. Cool


Yeah! Working now. Thanks.

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Re: Email information... Wed, 28 November 2012 14:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I fear, I was too early.

Could it be that now NOT the next generation time is given but the generation AFTER the next?

But this time I'd feel better if another host or player (not FA8) could perhaps confirm it.

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Re: Email information... Mon, 03 December 2012 10:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 Altruist wrote on Wed, 28 November 2012 20:23

I fear, I was too early.

Could it be that now NOT the next generation time is given but the generation AFTER the next?

But this time I'd feel better if another host or player (not FA8) could perhaps confirm it.


This turn everything has worked fine.
Perhaps the last problem was only a small mixup due to changed genning times.

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Re: Email information... Sun, 07 April 2013 02:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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As a host I've now come across a slight issue with this solution, which could be resolved, I hope fairly simply (but that heavily depends on the way SAH behaves behind the scenes).

Having put a longer gen in place temporarily Id like to reduce the interval between turns again. However, doing so invalidates the information in the email...

Allowing a host to set a new gen interval for AFTER the current turn would make the changes more obvious

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Re: Email information... Sun, 07 April 2013 21:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 XAPBob wrote on Sun, 07 April 2013 02:56
As a host I've now come across a slight issue with this solution, which could be resolved, I hope fairly simply (but that heavily depends on the way SAH behaves behind the scenes).

Having put a longer gen in place temporarily Id like to reduce the interval between turns again. However, doing so invalidates the information in the email...

Allowing a host to set a new gen interval for AFTER the current turn would make the changes more obvious


I don't understand, The email can only send out what it knows about the next gen at the time the email is sent.

So yes, it you later change the next gen time the time in the email will be incorrect!

Do you want Autohost to send out a email to all players every time the Gen time changes?

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Re: Email information... Sun, 07 April 2013 22:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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 He meant adjusting the dynamic gen timer after one gen happens at the earlier dynamic gen timer.

The old fashioned, getting ur hands dirty way would be to put a static gen with exact gen times for the current gen with the full timer (75 hours in our case) along with the next static gen of 48 hours post first gen. Once it gens, switch back to the dynamic gen of 48/50 hours again. That would give a near approximation of the next gen timing in the email.

Or the simpler way, as bob did himself.... when the host changes the gen timing, he just sends out a email to everyone.

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Re: Email information... Mon, 08 April 2013 04:28 Go to previous message
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Yep - I was aiming at the "auto" part of autohost Wink

And automating things generally results in lower probability of error.

If the game is in a long gen for 2500 then as a host it would be nice to be able to say "short gen after this one" and not change the "next gen time" but the emil sent out would say "you've got 26 hours to sub..."

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