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Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Wed, 01 June 2011 18:47 Go to next message
knightpraetor is currently offline knightpraetor

 
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Game Info
Players: 6 - 8
Skill level: beginner - lower intermediate
Ranked: No

Version: 2.7JRC3

Update: player list and levels
Knightpraetor intermediate
EchoOne beginner
Owen beginner
dragoonasc beginner
Greenstink
Amadeus beginner
LittleEddie beginner
Void beginner
owteufel
Mogs beginner



Autohost: Yes
Turn generation: 5 turns a week (Tuesday-Saturday) up to year 2430, then 3 turns/week (Tue-Thur-Sat) as soon as requested by at least one player. Weekends and holidays off (do notify me about holidays).
Host is playing: Yes
Universe size: small packed (240 stars in a 800x800-ly-universe), distant starting positions
Starting conditions: ACC BBS
Victory conditions: Last Man/Last Team standing or consensus. Winning team mustn't exceed 2 players.

Game Rules
1) No pregame alliances: Players aren't allowed to get in contact with each other before to optimize their race designs for a later alliance.

2) Using chaff, split-fleet dodge and the repair after gating loophole is ok, all other "cheats" are forbidden and most likely lead to your disqualification, for more info see the thread: Known Bugs (JRC3) - Player Exploitable Bugs / "Features" (or ask the host when in doubt)

3) Only one other player may be set to friend and traded tech with at any one time, all others must be set to enemy. You can change an ally after the alliance lasted for 10 years or more.

Restrictions for your race-design depending on experience
Players which have already played Stars games vs humans will have disadvantages by leaving leftover points in the race wizard and some PRTs (primary race traits) might be forbidden. I'll check the races and especially to the beginners I'll be offering some advice how to improve your design.

Claim Adjusters are Banned.

0-1 games completed = beginner
2 games completed = Adv. Beginner.
3+ games completed = intermediate

a) for beginners
* banned: AR (Alternate Reality) and PP (Packet Physics), CA

b) for advanced beginners:
* banned: AR, PP, CA
* all other PRTs: 60 leftover points
Leftover points can be spent as you like.

c)intermediates:
* banned CA
* AR: 0 leftover points
* JoaT, SD: 200 leftover points
* IT: 125 leftover points
* all other PRTs: 100 leftover points
Leftover points can be spent as you like except on mineral concentration.


[Updated on: Sun, 12 June 2011 19:56]

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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner game Wed, 01 June 2011 18:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
EchOne is currently offline EchOne

 
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I'm one of KP's beginner friends. I've never played before but hopefully we can all have fun! Very Happy

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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Wed, 01 June 2011 19:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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[u]http://starsautohost.org/sahforum/index.php?t=msg&th=461 4&start=0&rid=1471&S=1f6721a280b0076a93155aadf0e fd8f2[/u]

Welcome back to AH and Welcome to another new player Cool

Maybe try some rule sets like the FA series for a beginner game. seems to be rather nice setup from the game im in. Another part could be even asking Altruist to host another in the series since FA7 is 60 turns in now.

As for debating game rules of games it seems the bar is where that is done then the final rule sets are posted here for all interested to formally join.

Greenstink


[Updated on: Wed, 01 June 2011 19:31]




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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Wed, 01 June 2011 19:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I support everything Greenskin is saying even though we're currently slugging it out in FA7 Twisted Evil
If you could firm up the rules I might be up for another game.

42+1

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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Wed, 01 June 2011 19:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fortythree wrote on Wed, 01 June 2011 16:30

I support everything Greenskin is saying even though we're currently slugging it out in FA7 Twisted Evil
If you could firm up the rules I might be up for another game.

42+1


Oh sure another game where we will likely never get an alliance due to picking the same habs off the start, resulting in us throwing rocks at each other. Im in.



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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Wed, 01 June 2011 22:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Sounds good. so with greenskin, the count is at 5. we need 1-3 more.

ps - i stole that ruleset, but I didn't see anything about having to pick similar habs.


[Updated on: Wed, 01 June 2011 22:31]

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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Wed, 01 June 2011 23:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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knightpraetor wrote on Wed, 01 June 2011 19:29

Sounds good. so with greenskin, the count is at 5. we need 1-3 more.

ps - i stole that ruleset, but I didn't see anything about having to pick similar habs.


Thats what happened in FA7 between 43 and myself Laughing



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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Thu, 02 June 2011 02:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think we are faring pretty good in FA VII, considering what is happening... Razz


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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Thu, 02 June 2011 03:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Amadeus is currently offline Amadeus

 
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Hello! I'd like to join in if possible. This would be my first game (against humans), so any advice would be appreciated.

[Updated on: Thu, 02 June 2011 03:30]

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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Thu, 02 June 2011 10:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
m.a@stars is currently offline m.a@stars

 
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Welcome! Cheers

Amadeus wrote on Thu, 02 June 2011 09:25

This would be my first game (against humans), so any advice would be appreciated.

Humans are harder to beat than AIs. Twisted Evil

Make sure you've read and understand the Tutorial - How to get over 25k resources by 2450 (BEGINNER) and to playtest your race design(s) for a reasonable performance resource-wise, landgrabbing-wise, and warfighting-wise. Deal



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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Thu, 02 June 2011 10:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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When you update the first post can you please put short notes in the edit lines so we can see the changes as they progress?

Aswell im seeing CA Banned for Beginners and Advanced Beginners but not for Low Intermediate players (only a 100 point penalty). Typo im guessing?

Do we also have a 3rd party to chack the races and set the game up? Aswell who will be determining player handicap (Beginner, Advanced Beginner and Low Intermediate)?

My self ive played in FA7 and will likely be the first race eliminated in that game, but i cant really say who ranks where for anyone else.

Edit- More questions Razz


[Updated on: Thu, 02 June 2011 17:43]




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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Thu, 02 June 2011 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hey, I have one question- I see the version is 2.6f, and I have read that 2.6f and 2.7f are compatible. The thing is though, that I tried out both versions and there are major differences.. for example, the 2.6f fuel mizer is great, but in 2.7f it really got nerfed and isn't nearly as awesome, also my 2.7f has more stuff, like advanced biotic armor that isn't in 2.6f.. so clearly these aren't compatible.

short question is, which version do you guys use?

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Ok, put me in

Should be good.

Ed

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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Thu, 02 June 2011 17:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Amadeus wrote on Thu, 02 June 2011 07:43

Hey, I have one question- I see the version is 2.6f, and I have read that 2.6f and 2.7f are compatible. The thing is though, that I tried out both versions and there are major differences.. for example, the 2.6f fuel mizer is great, but in 2.7f it really got nerfed and isn't nearly as awesome, also my 2.7f has more stuff, like advanced biotic armor that isn't in 2.6f.. so clearly these aren't compatible.

short question is, which version do you guys use?


First post says 2.6JRC4 or 2.7JRC3 (German) which should be found here at this link.

http://starsautohost.org/kn2050.htm



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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Thu, 02 June 2011 19:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Amadeus wrote on Thu, 02 June 2011 16:43

the 2.6f fuel mizer is great, but in 2.7f it really got nerfed and isn't nearly as awesome, also my 2.7f has more stuff, like advanced biotic armor that isn't in 2.6f.. so clearly these aren't compatible.

I'm guessing many cool things got nerfed to better balance the game. Sherlock

The Fuel Mizer is still wonderful, though. Deal



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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Fri, 03 June 2011 00:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok, thanks for the link- guess that clears it up.

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Amadeus wrote on Fri, 03 June 2011 02:43

Hey, I have one question- I see the version is 2.6f, and I have read that 2.6f and 2.7f are compatible. The thing is though, that I tried out both versions and there are major differences.. for example, the 2.6f fuel mizer is great, but in 2.7f it really got nerfed and isn't nearly as awesome, also my 2.7f has more stuff, like advanced biotic armor that isn't in 2.6f.. so clearly these aren't compatible.

Where exactly did you get these two versions? There is no reference to "advanced biotic armor" in the official release notes for any version that I can find.


ETA: I did find one in the Viper mod tho, but that is edited by StarEd which only works on Stars! versions 2.6 and 2.7 I and J only.


[Updated on: Fri, 03 June 2011 01:48]

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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Fri, 03 June 2011 07:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's this version: http://www.starsfaq.com/files/stars27jrc3-patched.rar

It also has a super small "fighter" hull that carries no fuel, as well a lot more tech dependencies between components. Originally, I thought this was the latest version, so I asked.

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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Fri, 03 June 2011 23:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
gible

 
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Amadeus wrote on Fri, 03 June 2011 23:01

It's this version: http: //www.starsfaq.com/files/stars27jrc3-patched.rar

It also has a super small "fighter" hull that carries no fuel, as well a lot more tech dependencies between components. Originally, I thought this was the latest version, so I asked.

well poo...that's actually my mistake..and is err... years old. That *is* the Viper mod (I compared the files)...and I can see it in the wiki backups from 2009..its in the downloads directory(still Confused), but not in the wiki because well..its not supposed to be there.. Sorry bout that.. I have emailed people to get them(@ wiki+faq) removed.


On the brighter side...as you say, the Viper mod is quite fun to play..perhaps you could host/play a game of that? (tho you won't be able to use AH for that)


ETA: removed link


[Updated on: Fri, 03 June 2011 23:46]

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gible wrote on Sat, 04 June 2011 05:45

the Viper mod is quite fun to play..

I've never tried it. Is it balanced enough? Sherlock

Also, is there a MOD file for it, or is the patched exe the only way? Deal



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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Sun, 05 June 2011 12:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Gah. I've been moving out for a few days, so I come back and the thread's flooded.

Umm, I was originally planning to just use the latest version of stars, but I don't even know what that is.

yeah, I was planning to make CA just banned across the board.

Is everyone ok with using 2.7jrc3?

I don't actually know the differences

so with amadeus, we are now at 7 players and just need one more. Fortythree isn't playing, right? or do you want to?

Also, I don't have anyone to check the races yet.

I was determining skill ranks myself, but I think it's better just to have a hard and fast rule. 2 games completed. Adv. Beginner.
Less = beginner

3 games completed = intermediate


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So.. to continue hijacking the thread, because of the big fuel mizer nerf, the mod forces you to use the engines in the beginning which everyone (I assume) usually skips. Many components have tech requirements from three or even four branches which slows down the tech pace.

the question is, if it's possible to mod the game, wouldn't it be possible to update the interface and map? Wouldn't modding be more efficient than recreating the game from scratch?



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Re: Show me your moves! Beginner - lower intermediate game Sun, 05 June 2011 14:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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knightpraetor wrote on Sun, 05 June 2011 09:21

so with amadeus, we are now at 7 players and just need one more.

Count me in. It's clear from my play in FA7 I'm pretty poor in multi-player games, so I should fit in well with those playing their first game!

Cheers,
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I played a lot a while back, but have been out for about 6 or 7 years. Lost all my race files back then, so I am pretty much a beginner.

I would like to play, or if you are full put me down as first replacement. I would even take a drop out position after the game has started.

Mick



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Amadeus wrote on Sun, 05 June 2011 20:05

if it's possible to mod the game, wouldn't it be possible to update the interface and map? Wouldn't modding be more efficient than recreating the game from scratch?

Tweaking the game's data tables is a lot easier than rebuilding the GUI. Shocked



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