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LittleEddie is currently offline LittleEddie

 
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I'm now running Stars! on Windows 8 32-Bit Release Preview.


I went from Windows 7 Home 64-Bit to Windows 8 32-Bit Release Preview.


So far I've tested:

Stars! Version 2.7 crashes on the BattleBoard with "Wavemix.dll" being the problem.

Stars! Version 2.6jre has been running fine with no crashes so far.

Stars! Notebook, runs, no problems.

Autohost Client, runs, no problems.

Xtreme Borders, will not start, "Tabctl32.ocx" is a problem.

Stars! Player's Guide v2.6b, the Help file, runs and works from the help menu in Stars!


Instalalion:

I'm running a Intel 2 Quad CPU @ 2.33GHz with 6GB of memory that's a few years old with a 60GB solid state primary drive and 700GB hard drive for data and 3 monitors.

1. I when to http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/iso and downloaded the 32-bit(x86) ISO image. It's 2.5 GB so it may take a while.

2. After it downloaded I right-clicked on the file and selected Open with Windows Disc Image Burner and burned the ISO to a DVD.

3. I then BACKED UP MY COMPUTER.

4. Set my computer to boot from CD Drive and restarted.

5. Booted to Windows 8 Install and entered the activation code from
http://www.forumswindows8.com/windows-updates-activation/win dows-8-release-preview-product-key-different-language-iso-65 48.htm

6. Select Custom Install and pick the drive.

7 After it's running I install Dropbox and then started Stars.exe and the computer asked if I wanted to enable 16-Bit mode and I clicked OK.

Now it works like a charm. Full screen Stars!.

Little Eddie
My Computer:
http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/30299629/1/Stars%21?h=6a030c
[Updated on: Sun, 03 June 2012 16:34]


[Updated on: Mon, 04 June 2012 20:31]

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I'm not surprised you have problem with old .dll. I guess you simply don't have it in your system?

If it is so then you should be able to find it easily on the web.



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Eagle of Fire wrote on Mon, 04 June 2012 21:32

I'm not surprised you have problem with old .dll. I guess you simply don't have it in your system?

If it is so then you should be able to find it easily on the web.


No, I have it in my system both in the directory with the program and in Windows/System32.

It's the first thing I checked. Smile

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Re: Windows 8 32-Bit Tue, 05 June 2012 03:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Have you tried without the .dll? It might then work - but no sound effects..

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LittleEddie wrote on Tue, 05 June 2012 12:29

Stars! Version 2.6jre has been running fine with no crashes so far.


By 2.6jre I'm hoping you mean 2.6jRC4 ?

Quote:

Stars! Player's Guide v2.6b

Do you mean Stars! 2.6b? (the shareware, no code required, limited to tech 10 version)


[Updated on: Wed, 06 June 2012 17:55]

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gible wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 17:49

LittleEddie wrote on Tue, 05 June 2012 12:29

Stars! Version 2.6jre has been running fine with no crashes so far.


By 2.6jre I'm hoping you mean 2.6jRC4 ?

Quote:

Stars! Player's Guide v2.6b

Do you mean Stars! 2.6b? (the shareware, no code required, limited to tech 10 version)



The Stars file that works is STARS26JRC4.ZIP


for the Help file I was using st26bhlp.zip but e27ihelp.zip also works

One other thing that I found, I had to copy the Stars.ini file into the C:/windows directory and change the security on the file so that Stars! could write to it. In the default setup the ini file was not in C:/windows and after moving it there the system wouldn't let it be written to. I clicked on the Stars.ini file and selected "properties" and changed the security to allow

Full Control
modify
Read & Execute
Read
Write































[Updated on: Thu, 07 June 2012 20:46]

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Re: Windows 8 32-Bit Thu, 07 June 2012 21:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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One other thing that I found, I had to copy the Stars.ini file into the C:/windows directory and change the security on the file so that Stars! could write to it. In the default setup the ini file was not in C:/windows and after moving it there the system wouldn't let it be written to. I clicked on the Stars.ini file and selected "properties" and changed the security to allow


Yup. One of the numerous retarded "upgrades" of Windows 7 and onward. The only directory programs which are not directly allowed to do so can access and write to is "My Folder" thing.

Another reason why I don't want to switch from Win XP.



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LittleEddie wrote on Fri, 08 June 2012 12:40

One other thing that I found, I had to copy the Stars.ini file into the C:/windows directory and change the security on the file so that Stars! could write to it. In the default setup the ini file was not in C:/windows and after moving it there the system wouldn't let it be written to. I clicked on the Stars.ini file and selected "properties" and changed the security to allow Full Control

Was it previously located at [drive]:\users\[user]\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Windows ?
What was wrong when it was located there? forget serial? zip orders? window layout? ie.. why had to?


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Every single Win 3.11 programs kept, when it was needed, information in the //windows repertory. It was standard back then so since the program was written for Windows 3.11 it take for granted that the .ini file is (or will be) in that directory. If you move the file, the program won't find it and will thus act just like if it didn't exist.

The way default Windows 7 and upward work, "normal" programs don't have rights to write or create any file outside of the "My Folders" directory (I don't know what is the name exactly but I referred to it in my last post too). This mean that STARS! cannot create the C:/Windows/STARS.ini file by itself. And of course, if you don't allow the file to be able to be written over then it won't be able to edit it either even if it does exist.

I think those versions of Windows manage pretty well with the newest programs made specially for it. But you want to run older software? With default parameters, you're screwed.



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EoF, I'm not certain why you're rabbiting on about this. I'm well aware of the behaviour of the various Windows version prior to Win8 wrt ini files and the %windows% directory.

For your clarification, Windows Vista and 7 both trick Stars! into thinking it has access to the %windows% directory when really the files are located [as above]. Actual access is neither required nor optimal.

My questions were to understand the extent of the changes introduced by Win8 and the effect they have on ancient software. What prior windows versions did is really only useful as a comparison.

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Simply because, AFAIK from people I know who reported it to me, it doesn't work like you said.

At least for old software.



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Re: Windows 8 32-Bit Fri, 08 June 2012 07:13 Go to previous message
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gible wrote on Fri, 08 June 2012 01:45

LittleEddie wrote on Fri, 08 June 2012 12:40

One other thing that I found, I had to copy the Stars.ini file into the C:/windows directory and change the security on the file so that Stars! could write to it. In the default setup the ini file was not in C:/windows and after moving it there the system wouldn't let it be written to. I clicked on the Stars.ini file and selected "properties" and changed the security to allow Full Control

Was it previously located at [drive]:\users\[user]\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Windows ?
What was wrong when it was located there? forget serial? zip orders? window layout? ie.. why had to?


The ini file was not being written too by the Stars Program. So in my way of doing things, I just kept changing things until it did, and that's what it took to get it working.

There may be other ways to do it I'm sure.

Edit: moments later, I checked both locations and now the ...Virtual/Windows/Stars.ini is being used by the Stars program. I don't know if I can undo everything on my computer and check it, but it's working now.


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